Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2020/12/29

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Subject: [Leica] Converted Monochrome
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 09:44:02 +0530
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Native solutions that do not need adapters are always the best solution!
Buying a 6-7 year body and getting it converted puts US$2000 at risk -
things  can go wrong in the sensor conversion, and converted bodies are far
more expensive:

https://maxmax.com/shopper/category/9485-sony-monochrome

Just wait till you have a bit more money salted away, and buy a Monochrom.

Cheers
Jayanand

On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 9:15 AM Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> 
wrote:

> Hi Jayanand, idle curiosity really. The only digital lens I have are Leica
> Ms and I have no intention is get into a digital system, per se ;-) Would
> love a Monochrom, but...
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 7:35 PM Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>
>> Richard,
>> Unless you use a high megapixel camera to effect the conversion, there is
>> not much advantage that I see. If I buy a 24MP Nikon or Fuji (both systems
>> I already have lenses for) and effect the conversion, I would end up with
>> a
>> 40-45MP monochrome camera. The results from this would not be materially
>> different enough from converting files to B&W taken on a Nikon D850 or Z7,
>> to be worth the additional cost or effort.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 12:43 AM Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > $500 for an a7 ;-)
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 11:09 John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > $1000 on top of the price of a donor...
>> > >
>> > > john
>> > >
>> > > ?On 29/12/2020, 18:04, "LUG on behalf of Richard Man"
>> <lug-bounces+john=
>> > > mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org on behalf of richard at 
>> > > imagecraft.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >     The monochrom conversion is "only" $1000, the price of a Leica
>> > lenscap
>> > > ;-)
>> > >     Worth it? who knows. fyi, Monochrom (the original) still fetches
>> > >     about $3500-$4500
>> > >
>> > >     As for films,  yea, I shoot a lot of those ;-)
>> > >
>> > >     Paul, by pulling off the color filter, it *could* increase the
>> > apparent
>> > >     resolution. Definitely not 4x, but not insignificant.
>> > >
>> > >     On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 9:39 AM Paul Roark via LUG <
>> > > lug at leica-users.org>
>> > >     wrote:
>> > >
>> > >     > Is the only advantage of pulling off the color filter layer of
>> the
>> > > sensor
>> > >     > (assuming focus is kept flat via some neutral replacement)
>> > > increasing the
>> > >     > speed/ISO of the camera?
>> > >     >
>> > >     > I was wondering if (and doubting that) any company was able to
>> > > separate the
>> > >     > individual sensor elements and quadruple the resolution.
>> > >     >
>> > >     > Paul
>> > >     > www.PaulRoark.com
>> > >     >
>> > >     > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 7:59 PM Richard Man <
>> > richard at imagecraft.com>
>> > >     > wrote:
>> > >     >
>> > >     > > Hi Paul, the Sony A7 conversion I am aware of is the site that
>> > > Jayanyand
>> > >     > > referenced:
>> > >     > > https://www.monochromeimaging.com/
>> > >     > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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