Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2019/04/02

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Subject: [Leica] New Leica!
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 14:11:50 -0400
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I was going to start making a lot of long skinny panoramic prints way back 
in the 1980's and use the cameras I had which were normal 35mm cameras. I 
was just going to crop the negs skinny.
I think a lot of people thought they are going to do that. But neither I or 
a lot of other people did that; cropped our 2 over 3 negs to 617 or some 
other skinny pan format. Why? I think it?s a human nature thing. Once we've 
shot it fat it kind of goes against the grain to then make it skinny. So we 
don?t.
That?s why a digital crop works out to be a thing people use. Even though it 
seems wasteful it makes for a viable option.
Because extreme cropping later turns out to be a thing people just don?t 
want to do.

 
 

-- 

Mark William Rabiner
Photographer

?On 4/2/19, 7:52 AM, "LUG on behalf of Howard Ritter via LUG" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at 
leica-users.org> wrote:

    For me, digital zoom is a bit like an automatic transmission (or a 
point-and-shoot function in a camera). It accomplishes one thing, a center 
crop of fixed size, effortlessly. If you can work a clutch and shift stick 
in your favorite image-processing program, you can have a crop centered 
anywhere, of any size, of any dimensions. And you get to work in 
raw/png/dng/tiff rather than jpeg.
    
    I frankly, no pun intended, don?t see the allure. Except maybe that the 
VF crops the view as well as the sensor.
    
    
    ?howard
    
    > On Apr1, 2019, at 1432, Frank Filippone via LUG <lug at 
leica-users.org> wrote:
    > 
    > The new Leica Q2 has the following specs....
    > 24x36 full frame sensor
    > Sensor has resolution of 47.3MP
    > Summilux 28 mm f/1.7 ASPH fixed, non-zoom, and non-interchangeable lens
    > OLED viewfinder has a resolution of 3.68 megapixels  ( no optical RF 
or VF)
    > 
    > Internal cropping ( now referred to as "digital zoom") of this lens 
allows for the following fixed equivalent Fl and resolutions.....  BUT for 
JPG files ONLY!!
    > Zoom 28 mm: 47 megapixels (8368x5584 pixels), 24 megapixels (6000x4000 
pixels), 12 megapixels (4271x2848 pixels). 3 different resolutions, I guess 
dependent on JPG compression ratios.....
    > Zoom 35 mm: 30 megapixels (6704x4472 pixels), 15 megapixels (4800x3200 
pixels), 8 megapixels (3424x2288 pixels)
    > Zoom 50 mm: 15 megapixels (4688x3128 pixels), 8 megapixels (3360x2240 
pixels), 4 megapixels (2400x1600 pixels)
    > Zoom 75 mm: 7 megapixels (3136x2096 pixels), 3 megapixels (2240x1496 
pixels), 2 megapixels (1600x1072 pixels)
    > 
    > DNG:  RAW files of 47.3MP  No Zoom at all.  Crop in your choice of LR, 
or other.....
    > 
    > As long as you are happy to shoot JPG files, this is a fine set of 
specs.
    > If you wish to shoot RAW images, not as much.... but you o get to crop 
in your own HxW ratios and specific areas to crop.
    > 
    > If they would simply put a M mount on the camera, forget the AF, and 
focus the camera on the Digi-M functions, it would be a fine camera for me.
    > 
    > Frank Filippone
    > 
    > Red735i at verizon.net
    > 
    > 
    > 
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