Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2019/04/02

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Subject: [Leica] New Leica!
From: stevebarbour at mac.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2019 08:02:08 -0700
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Yes, I totally agree with Sonny , "every image you make is a crop!".


> On Apr 2, 2019, at 7:52 AM, Sonny Carter via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> Every time you put a camera to your eye you begin to crop the picture.
>  Where you stand, how high you hold the camera, how tall or short you
> are, which lens you choose;   It's all the same thing as cropping.
> 
> I've been shooting pictures for more than sixty years, and one thing
> I've found out, if you don't crop the picture, the editor will.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sonny
> http://sonc.com/look/
> Natchitoches, Louisiana
> 1714
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> 
> USA
> 
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 9:32 AM Steve Barbour via LUG
> <lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>> 
>> The "No-Croppers? will not buy it.
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 6:56 AM, CartersXRd via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Q2 will will present an interessting artistic quandry of those who 
>>> refuse to crop the sacred 3:2 format.
>>> 
>>> Will throwing the switch from 28 to 35 or 50 or 75 be a sinful crop, or 
>>> present a whole new holy rectangle?
>>> 
>>> ric
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 7:52 AM, Howard Ritter via LUG <lug at 
>>>> leica-users.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> For me, digital zoom is a bit like an automatic transmission (or a 
>>>> point-and-shoot function in a camera). It accomplishes one thing, a 
>>>> center crop of fixed size, effortlessly. If you can work a clutch and 
>>>> shift stick in your favorite image-processing program, you can have a 
>>>> crop centered anywhere, of any size, of any dimensions. And you get to 
>>>> work in raw/png/dng/tiff rather than jpeg.
>>>> 
>>>> I frankly, no pun intended, don?t see the allure. Except maybe that the 
>>>> VF crops the view as well as the sensor.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ?howard
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr1, 2019, at 1432, Frank Filippone via LUG <lug at 
>>>>> leica-users.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The new Leica Q2 has the following specs....
>>>>> 24x36 full frame sensor
>>>>> Sensor has resolution of 47.3MP
>>>>> Summilux 28 mm f/1.7 ASPH fixed, non-zoom, and non-interchangeable lens
>>>>> OLED viewfinder has a resolution of 3.68 megapixels  ( no optical RF 
>>>>> or VF)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Internal cropping ( now referred to as "digital zoom") of this lens 
>>>>> allows for the following fixed equivalent Fl and resolutions.....  BUT 
>>>>> for JPG files ONLY!!
>>>>> Zoom 28 mm: 47 megapixels (8368x5584 pixels), 24 megapixels (6000x4000 
>>>>> pixels), 12 megapixels (4271x2848 pixels). 3 different resolutions, I 
>>>>> guess dependent on JPG compression ratios.....
>>>>> Zoom 35 mm: 30 megapixels (6704x4472 pixels), 15 megapixels (4800x3200 
>>>>> pixels), 8 megapixels (3424x2288 pixels)
>>>>> Zoom 50 mm: 15 megapixels (4688x3128 pixels), 8 megapixels (3360x2240 
>>>>> pixels), 4 megapixels (2400x1600 pixels)
>>>>> Zoom 75 mm: 7 megapixels (3136x2096 pixels), 3 megapixels (2240x1496 
>>>>> pixels), 2 megapixels (1600x1072 pixels)
>>>>> 
>>>>> DNG:  RAW files of 47.3MP  No Zoom at all.  Crop in your choice of LR, 
>>>>> or other.....
>>>>> 
>>>>> As long as you are happy to shoot JPG files, this is a fine set of 
>>>>> specs.
>>>>> If you wish to shoot RAW images, not as much.... but you o get to crop 
>>>>> in your own HxW ratios and specific areas to crop.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If they would simply put a M mount on the camera, forget the AF, and 
>>>>> focus the camera on the Digi-M functions, it would be a fine camera 
>>>>> for me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>>> 
>>>>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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