[Leica] IMGS: B&W

[mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)]

Red is a slower or slowest wavelength in light. Despite an overall more 
contrast look on pix made with red filters there is a overall lower rez 
feeling I believe for that reason.
Shooting with green filters makes for an image based on green light which is 
the fastest wavelength in light so there is a higher rez effect. And a 
reason for shooting with a light green, yellow green or darker green filter.
A light green is said to restore true panchromatic ness as you don?t really 
get it even if it says " panchromatic " it on the box. Which is always said 
on the box till they started taking them off.
But a reason why I used a lot of black and white filters is because almost 
all of them made it so you could get tone in the sky without under exposing. 
And washed out sky's make for second rate looking images.
I want sharp looking clouds with some real weight to them!!!?!
 

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Mark William Rabiner
Photographer

?On 3/5/19, 5:59 AM, "LUG on behalf of John McMaster" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of john at 
mcmaster.co.uk> wrote:

    It was quite well known at the time, I only tried in 2012 when I first 
got my Monochrom...
    
    john
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] On 
Behalf Of Lluis Ripoll via LUG
    Sent: 04 March 2019 23:17
    To: Leica Users Group
    Cc: Lluis Ripoll
    Subject: Re: [Leica] IMGS: B&W
    
    I will test this as well, did you contacted Leica support about this 
issue?
    Lluis
    
    
    > El 4 mar? 2019, a les 23:29, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> va 
escriure:
    > 
    > I tend to use wider apertures, Noctilux with a red filter and I never 
got a sharp (by f1.0 standards) shot!  Even an orange on the 21mm f3.4 
knocked focus out....
    > 
    > john
    > 
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] 
On Behalf Of Lluis Ripoll via LUG
    > Sent: 04 March 2019 22:07
    > To: Leica Users Group
    > Cc: Lluis Ripoll
    > Subject: Re: [Leica] IMGS: B&W
    > 
    > I?ve never identified this problem with the MM, thank you John!
    > Lluis
    > 
    > 
    >> El 4 mar? 2019, a les 10:39, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> 
va escriure:
    >> 
    >> Also coloured filters affect the focussing on the Monochrom, hard to 
get accurate focus with (say) a red filter.
    >> 
    >> john
    >> 
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] 
On Behalf Of Tina Manley via LUG
    >> Sent: 04 March 2019 00:09
    >> To: Leica Users Group
    >> Cc: Tina Manley
    >> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMGS: B&W
    >> 
    >> Yes, the MM is totally different from converting color.  I, however, 
would
    >> not use actual filters on Leica lenses.  Any glass in front of the 
lens
    >> degrades it to some extent and increases the possibility of flares.  
That's
    >> one area that I think digital is better.  Take the photo with the MM 
and
    >> apply the digital filter later.  That way you still have the
    >> unmanipulated photo and can apply as many or as few filters as you 
want,
    >> after the fact.  I really like Nik's Silver Efex for processing B&W.
    >> 
    >> Tina
    >> 
    >> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 6:50 AM Mark Rabiner <mark at 
rabinergroup.com> wrote:
    >> 
    >>> I really think and this shot illustrates it that they way to do 
black and
    >>> white when your shooting digital is to use a digital camera or back.
    >>> Digital conversions done later have never quite made it for me. Once 
I see
    >>> them in color I seldom feel like taking all the color out. I always 
know
    >>> the colors are there. Shots I'd converted to black and white years 
later
    >>> when I look at the original raw file again I end up keeping the 
color when
    >>> I photoshop it again.
    >>> I hope the time comes when I can get set up with a Leica monochrome 
or
    >>> other digital black and white sensor and wow start investing in 
filters as
    >>> I don?t know if I can find the ones I used to use. My default was 
the 060
    >>> B+W yellow green.  Is B+W  still in business it was owned by JSK 
Schneider?
    >>> But I loved a darker green or red for sky shots. And others. But the 
green
    >>> I used the most as they were the only ones which did not turn people 
in to
    >>> creatures from another planet.
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> --
    >>> 
    >>> Mark William Rabiner
    >>> Photographer
    >>> 
    >>> ?On 3/3/19, 12:11 PM, "LUG on behalf of Tina Manley via LUG"
    >>> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
    >>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
    >>> 
    >>>   PESO:
    >>> 
    >>>   I posted a few B&W's from night markets:
    >>> 
    >>>   https://pbase.com/tinamanley/image/168874023
    >>> 
    >>>   And next.
    >>> 
    >>>   I'll have lots more B&W when I get to some of people working but 
they
    >>> are
    >>>   usually such colorful people that I took far more color than B&W.
    >>> 
    >>>   TIA for any comments.
    >>> 
    >>>   Tina
    >>> 
    
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