Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2019/03/04

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Subject: [Leica] IMGS: B&W
From: lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2019 00:16:50 +0100
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I will test this as well, did you contacted Leica support about this issue?
Lluis


> El 4 mar? 2019, a les 23:29, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> va 
> escriure:
> 
> I tend to use wider apertures, Noctilux with a red filter and I never got 
> a sharp (by f1.0 standards) shot!  Even an orange on the 21mm f3.4 knocked 
> focus out....
> 
> john
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] On 
> Behalf Of Lluis Ripoll via LUG
> Sent: 04 March 2019 22:07
> To: Leica Users Group
> Cc: Lluis Ripoll
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMGS: B&W
> 
> I?ve never identified this problem with the MM, thank you John!
> Lluis
> 
> 
>> El 4 mar? 2019, a les 10:39, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> va 
>> escriure:
>> 
>> Also coloured filters affect the focussing on the Monochrom, hard to get 
>> accurate focus with (say) a red filter.
>> 
>> john
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Tina Manley via LUG
>> Sent: 04 March 2019 00:09
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Cc: Tina Manley
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMGS: B&W
>> 
>> Yes, the MM is totally different from converting color.  I, however, would
>> not use actual filters on Leica lenses.  Any glass in front of the lens
>> degrades it to some extent and increases the possibility of flares.  
>> That's
>> one area that I think digital is better.  Take the photo with the MM and
>> apply the digital filter later.  That way you still have the
>> unmanipulated photo and can apply as many or as few filters as you want,
>> after the fact.  I really like Nik's Silver Efex for processing B&W.
>> 
>> Tina
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 6:50 AM Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I really think and this shot illustrates it that they way to do black and
>>> white when your shooting digital is to use a digital camera or back.
>>> Digital conversions done later have never quite made it for me. Once I 
>>> see
>>> them in color I seldom feel like taking all the color out. I always know
>>> the colors are there. Shots I'd converted to black and white years later
>>> when I look at the original raw file again I end up keeping the color 
>>> when
>>> I photoshop it again.
>>> I hope the time comes when I can get set up with a Leica monochrome or
>>> other digital black and white sensor and wow start investing in filters 
>>> as
>>> I don?t know if I can find the ones I used to use. My default was the 060
>>> B+W yellow green.  Is B+W  still in business it was owned by JSK 
>>> Schneider?
>>> But I loved a darker green or red for sky shots. And others. But the 
>>> green
>>> I used the most as they were the only ones which did not turn people in 
>>> to
>>> creatures from another planet.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>> Photographer
>>> 
>>> ?On 3/3/19, 12:11 PM, "LUG on behalf of Tina Manley via LUG"
>>> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
>>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   PESO:
>>> 
>>>   I posted a few B&W's from night markets:
>>> 
>>>   https://pbase.com/tinamanley/image/168874023
>>> 
>>>   And next.
>>> 
>>>   I'll have lots more B&W when I get to some of people working but they
>>> are
>>>   usually such colorful people that I took far more color than B&W.
>>> 
>>>   TIA for any comments.
>>> 
>>>   Tina
>>> 
> 
> 
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Replies: Reply from john at mcmaster.co.uk (John McMaster) ([Leica] IMGS: B&W)
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