Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2019/03/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hi Tina and Lluis, Though I don't have the MM, I have been watching this discussion with interest.? I do have a lot of scanned B&W images that need some cleanup and processing to make them useful.? I have experimented with Silver Efex and also with the B&W preset filters in Lightroom.? While Silver Efex is the best overall, I have, in some cases found that I was more pleased with the results from one of the LR B&W filters. I do check out the results with the color filter effects provided in Silver Efex and often find subtle improvements with the use of one of the filters. Just my 2 cents. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA On 3/4/2019 9:14 AM, Tina Manley via LUG wrote: > Yes, I see what you mean. I don't use the color filters in Silver Efex > with the Monochrome files. I use contrast and structure and brightness > which do affect the files. I have made some presets that I use on most > Monochrome files and also those that I convert from color to B&W. I still > find I get better results with Silver Efex than not. > > Tina > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 8:22 AM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at > leica-users.org> > wrote: > >> Tina, >> >> I have verified to apply diferent color filters with Silver Efex Pro on >> B&W pictures from the Monochrom, or from film, or from converted to B&W >> from M9 and the tones applying the filters don?t change at all. Because >> once a file is converted to B&W the three color channels information >> disappear, this is as well the basic concept to convert a sensor to a only >> B&W sensor, eliminating the called Bayer filter on the sensor. >> >> A different thing is when you are converting a file from any color camera >> M9 etc?, you can apply the desired filter for change the effect on the B&W >> conversion, but once is converted, at least me, I have no possibility to >> modify it acting on the filers or color channels. >> >> Please let me konw if you can do it, maybe I?m doing a wrong operation, >> thank you! >> >> Cheers >> Lluis >> >> >> >>> El 4 mar? 2019, a les 1:34, Tina Manley via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> >> va escriure: >>> I don't understand that Lluis. When I apply Sliver Efex to MM images it >>> definitely makes a difference in the tones. >>> >>> Tina >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 7:32 AM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at >>> leica-users.org >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Tina, >>>> >>>> If you apply a filter to a B&W picture from the Monochrom it makes no >>>> effect on the tones, neither with Silver Efex Pro. >>>> >>>> lluis >>>> >>>> >>>>> El 4 mar? 2019, a les 1:09, Tina Manley via LUG <lug at >>>>> leica-users.org> >>>> va escriure: >>>>> Yes, the MM is totally different from converting color. I, however, >>>> would >>>>> not use actual filters on Leica lenses. Any glass in front of the lens >>>>> degrades it to some extent and increases the possibility of flares. >>>> That's >>>>> one area that I think digital is better. Take the photo with the MM >> and >>>>> apply the digital filter later. That way you still have the >>>>> unmanipulated photo and can apply as many or as few filters as you >> want, >>>>> after the fact. I really like Nik's Silver Efex for processing B&W. >>>>> >>>>> Tina >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 6:50 AM Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> I really think and this shot illustrates it that they way to do black >>>> and >>>>>> white when your shooting digital is to use a digital camera or back. >>>>>> Digital conversions done later have never quite made it for me. Once I >>>> see >>>>>> them in color I seldom feel like taking all the color out. I always >> know >>>>>> the colors are there. Shots I'd converted to black and white years >> later >>>>>> when I look at the original raw file again I end up keeping the color >>>> when >>>>>> I photoshop it again. >>>>>> I hope the time comes when I can get set up with a Leica monochrome or >>>>>> other digital black and white sensor and wow start investing in >> filters >>>> as >>>>>> I don?t know if I can find the ones I used to use. My default was the >>>> 060 >>>>>> B+W yellow green. Is B+W still in business it was owned by JSK >>>> Schneider? >>>>>> But I loved a darker green or red for sky shots. And others. But the >>>> green >>>>>> I used the most as they were the only ones which did not turn people >> in >>>> to >>>>>> creatures from another planet. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>>>> Photographer >>>>>> >>>>>> ?On 3/3/19, 12:11 PM, "LUG on behalf of Tina Manley via LUG" >>>>>> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of >>>>>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> PESO: >>>>>> >>>>>> I posted a few B&W's from night markets: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://pbase.com/tinamanley/image/168874023 >>>>>> >>>>>> And next. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll have lots more B&W when I get to some of people working but >> they >>>>>> are >>>>>> usually such colorful people that I took far more color than B&W. >>>>>> >>>>>> TIA for any comments. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tina >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Tina Manley >>>>>> www.tinamanley.com >>>>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com >>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley >>>>>> < >>>>>> >> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Tina Manley >>>>> www.tinamanley.com >>>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com >>>>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley >>>>> < >> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tina Manley >>> www.tinamanley.com >>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com >>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley >>> < >> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >