Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2019/03/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Yes, I see what you mean. I don't use the color filters in Silver Efex with the Monochrome files. I use contrast and structure and brightness which do affect the files. I have made some presets that I use on most Monochrome files and also those that I convert from color to B&W. I still find I get better results with Silver Efex than not. Tina On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 8:22 AM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote: > Tina, > > I have verified to apply diferent color filters with Silver Efex Pro on > B&W pictures from the Monochrom, or from film, or from converted to B&W > from M9 and the tones applying the filters don?t change at all. Because > once a file is converted to B&W the three color channels information > disappear, this is as well the basic concept to convert a sensor to a only > B&W sensor, eliminating the called Bayer filter on the sensor. > > A different thing is when you are converting a file from any color camera > M9 etc?, you can apply the desired filter for change the effect on the B&W > conversion, but once is converted, at least me, I have no possibility to > modify it acting on the filers or color channels. > > Please let me konw if you can do it, maybe I?m doing a wrong operation, > thank you! > > Cheers > Lluis > > > > > El 4 mar? 2019, a les 1:34, Tina Manley via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> > va escriure: > > > > I don't understand that Lluis. When I apply Sliver Efex to MM images it > > definitely makes a difference in the tones. > > > > Tina > > > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 7:32 AM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at > > leica-users.org > > > > wrote: > > > >> Tina, > >> > >> If you apply a filter to a B&W picture from the Monochrom it makes no > >> effect on the tones, neither with Silver Efex Pro. > >> > >> lluis > >> > >> > >>> El 4 mar? 2019, a les 1:09, Tina Manley via LUG <lug at > >>> leica-users.org> > >> va escriure: > >>> > >>> Yes, the MM is totally different from converting color. I, however, > >> would > >>> not use actual filters on Leica lenses. Any glass in front of the lens > >>> degrades it to some extent and increases the possibility of flares. > >> That's > >>> one area that I think digital is better. Take the photo with the MM > and > >>> apply the digital filter later. That way you still have the > >>> unmanipulated photo and can apply as many or as few filters as you > want, > >>> after the fact. I really like Nik's Silver Efex for processing B&W. > >>> > >>> Tina > >>> > >>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 6:50 AM Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I really think and this shot illustrates it that they way to do black > >> and > >>>> white when your shooting digital is to use a digital camera or back. > >>>> Digital conversions done later have never quite made it for me. Once I > >> see > >>>> them in color I seldom feel like taking all the color out. I always > know > >>>> the colors are there. Shots I'd converted to black and white years > later > >>>> when I look at the original raw file again I end up keeping the color > >> when > >>>> I photoshop it again. > >>>> I hope the time comes when I can get set up with a Leica monochrome or > >>>> other digital black and white sensor and wow start investing in > filters > >> as > >>>> I don?t know if I can find the ones I used to use. My default was the > >> 060 > >>>> B+W yellow green. Is B+W still in business it was owned by JSK > >> Schneider? > >>>> But I loved a darker green or red for sky shots. And others. But the > >> green > >>>> I used the most as they were the only ones which did not turn people > in > >> to > >>>> creatures from another planet. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> Mark William Rabiner > >>>> Photographer > >>>> > >>>> ?On 3/3/19, 12:11 PM, "LUG on behalf of Tina Manley via LUG" > >>>> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of > >>>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> PESO: > >>>> > >>>> I posted a few B&W's from night markets: > >>>> > >>>> https://pbase.com/tinamanley/image/168874023 > >>>> > >>>> And next. > >>>> > >>>> I'll have lots more B&W when I get to some of people working but > they > >>>> are > >>>> usually such colorful people that I took far more color than B&W. > >>>> > >>>> TIA for any comments. > >>>> > >>>> Tina > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Tina Manley > >>>> www.tinamanley.com > >>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > >>>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley > >>>> < > >>>> > >> > http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Tina Manley > >>> www.tinamanley.com > >>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > >>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley > >>> < > >> > http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > -- > > Tina Manley > > www.tinamanley.com > > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley > > < > http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Tina Manley www.tinamanley.com tina-manley.artistwebsites.com http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley <http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html>