Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2018/06/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Because digital makes everything so easy, there is a return to hand crafted art?.heck, aside from the awesome glass plates I will feed to my Sanderson Tropical Camera this weekend, there is very little there you cannot obtain from Amazon with just BUY WITH ONE CLICK? And my Sanderson has a lot more soul than my Fuji X Leica M8 and Nikon D3/4/700? Last weekend at the Salem Oregon Famr Market I had a Kodak 35 (if you want fun film cameras Shadowsmith in Corvallis Oregon) from Shadowsmith the small version, I also carried a Fuji X Pro?obviously a farm market is hand crafters but the Kodak got the love and comments and can I hold it and the Fuji got one guy to ask if I preferred the X Trans Processor? Though photography essentially eliminated the need for landscape and portrait painting they never went away? My 2 cents > On Jun 8, 2018, at 4:35 AM, Jim Shulman <jshulman at judgecrater.com> > wrote: > > Other than churls like myself, who cling to film as Victorian spinsters > clung to antimacassars, there's no reason to stay with film. > > However, pre digital media made many photographic careers possible that > would otherwise not exist. Prior to the advent of digital imaging, it took > some skill and technical expertise to get anything worthwhile for > publication. That equalled jobs--the pro who could get the shot without a > Polaroid test, the Ektachrome retoucher, darkroom specialists, master > printers, etc. Inefficient creation and distribution of information made > good-paying careers that no longer exist. In today's media environment a > prime minister sliding down a banister would robably have been captured on > video by more than one amateur with a smartphone and instantly made > available over many platforms. Within ten minutes it might have become a > meme. Only the distribution channels would have (possibly) made any money > from it. > > On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 10:30 PM Ted Grant via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> > wrote: > >> Hi Tina, >> I CAN'T IMAGINE RETURNING TO "film!" It is an archaic form of recording >> photo image/moments! >> I also realize there are a great number of photog-newbie's trying it and I >> think that is wonderful for them to have a go at souping film and the big >> pain in the butt in doing so! >> But during my career on assignments I would return to home and darkroom >> with several hundred rolls of film to process and make contact sheets. Not >> just the two or three rolls from about the city assignments. >> Where today and digital, the darkroom is eliminated all together!!!! >> Yes there's a sort of "computer/screen time editing" after a shoot/ but >> nothing to clean-up. >> There isn't any mess to clean print washers and dryers, nor darkroom to >> always have to clean-up, along with all the garbage. >> It just isn't worth the cost of photo paper, film, enlarger, chemicals, >> dyers and all the rest of the paraphernalia. >> But too each his/her own which they may choose. But if someone begins with >> digital? Then tries to switch to film, I just can't imagine they'll stay >> with it other than giving it a bit of a try? Then forgetting it altogether >> and return quickly to digital! >> But then??? who knows???????????? :-) >> cheers, >> Dr. Ted Grant O.C. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On >> Behalf >> Of Tina Manley via LUG >> Sent: June-07-18 1:21 PM >> To: Leica Users Group >> Cc: Tina Manley >> Subject: Re: [Leica] First film in a long time >> >> I do prefer the phone photo in these. It makes me wonder why anybody >> bothers with film these days. I don't have the time, patience, or money >> to >> use film anymore. >> >> Tina >> >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:43 AM, Howard L Ritter Jr <hlritter at twc.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I decided to dip into film photography again, and this is the first >> fruit: >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/hlritter/bwphotos/ < >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/hlritter/bwphotos/> >>> >>> We were driving the Blue Ridge Parkway in western NC near the town of >>> Boone. I pulled into an overlook to watch a spring shower move across the >>> mountains and valleys. I captured a B&W film image with a Leica R9, 21-35 >>> Elmarit, and Tmax 100, and one with my iPhone. I?ve posted both, both >>> tweaked for contrast in PS. I?ve also posted the iPhone image converted >> to >>> greyscale, just for comparison. >>> >>> I certainly like the B&W, but I?m not sure this kind of largely >>> mid-grey-toned scene (as opposed to Lluis-type street scenes) is what B&W >>> is made for. Here I think the color image works best. >>> >>> And I?m either disappointed in the quality of the film image or impressed >>> by that of the iPhone image ? both, I guess. This kind of image quality >>> from a camera tucked in almost as an afterthought, just because they >> could >>> do it, into the corner of a cell phone! That?s borderline miraculous. >>> >>> I didn?t expect this much grain with Tax 100, but I may have been >>> heavy-handed with Photoshop on the film image. Also, the scale of the >>> iPhone image is larger, with an equivalent FL of 28mm vs. the 21mm of the >>> film image. I?m going to scan the negative with my own scanner to get >>> equivalent pixels-per-degree in both images, re-process them both, and >> see. >>> >>> >>> C&C welcome. >>> >>> ?howard >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Tina Manley >> www.tinamanley.com >> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com >> >> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information