[Leica] First film in a long time

[mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)]

I agree when someone says they're going back to film to me it connotes this 
kind of messy long hours dedication to the image and I'd admire them for it 
and would love to see their prints. In most cases though I?m never going to 
see any prints - there?s no darkroom. It?s not more dedication to the final 
product at all but quite the opposite. Its snapshots. Automated snapshots. 
Here its hitting a button on a cell phone which says ?black and white?. 
But in these imagers though taken with a cell phone I see the person taking 
control of the images himself in the end and making them his own on the 
third take with Photoshop. So it?s not totally automated its still image 
making in a somewhat responsible manner. So I?m for it and admire it. As 
there?s nothing phony or lazy about it.  And it?s a great image though I 
liked the foliage a bit darker.
Most ?film? work we see on the LUG for a few years now are automated 
snapshots which appear to be right off the photo counter at Walgreens. I?d 
admires a person shooting with an uncool DSLR who spent a few minutes on an 
image in photoshop a bit more.

-- 

Mark William Rabiner
Photographer

?On 6/7/18, 10:31 PM, "LUG on behalf of Ted Grant via LUG" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at 
leica-users.org> wrote:

    Hi Tina,
    I CAN'T IMAGINE RETURNING TO "film!" It is an archaic form of recording 
photo image/moments!
    I also realize there are a great number of photog-newbie's trying it and 
I think that is wonderful for them to have a go at souping film and the big 
pain in the butt in doing so!
    But during my career on assignments I would return to home and darkroom 
with several hundred rolls of film to process and make contact sheets. Not 
just the two or three rolls from about the city assignments. 
    Where today and digital, the darkroom is eliminated all together!!!!
    Yes there's a sort of "computer/screen time editing" after a shoot/ but 
nothing to clean-up.
    There isn't any mess to clean print washers and dryers, nor darkroom to 
always have to clean-up, along with all the garbage.
    It just isn't worth the cost of photo paper, film, enlarger, chemicals, 
dyers and all the rest of the paraphernalia.
    But too each his/her own which they may choose. But if someone begins 
with digital? Then tries to switch to film, I just can't imagine they'll 
stay with it other than giving it a bit of a try? Then forgetting it 
altogether and return quickly to digital!
    But then??? who knows???????????? :-)
    cheers,
    Dr. Ted Grant O.C. 
     
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On 
Behalf Of Tina Manley via LUG
    Sent: June-07-18 1:21 PM
    To: Leica Users Group
    Cc: Tina Manley
    Subject: Re: [Leica] First film in a long time
    
    I do prefer the phone photo in these.  It makes me wonder why anybody
    bothers with film these days.  I don't have the time, patience, or money 
to
    use film anymore.
    
    Tina
    
    On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:43 AM, Howard L Ritter Jr <hlritter at twc.com>
    wrote:
    
    > I decided to dip into film photography again, and this is the first 
fruit:
    > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/hlritter/bwphotos/ <
    > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/hlritter/bwphotos/>
    >
    > We were driving the Blue Ridge Parkway in western NC near the town of
    > Boone. I pulled into an overlook to watch a spring shower move across 
the
    > mountains and valleys. I captured a B&W film image with a Leica R9, 
21-35
    > Elmarit, and Tmax 100, and one with my iPhone. I?ve posted both, both
    > tweaked for contrast in PS. I?ve also posted the iPhone image 
converted to
    > greyscale, just for comparison.
    >
    > I certainly like the B&W, but I?m not sure this kind of largely
    > mid-grey-toned scene (as opposed to Lluis-type street scenes) is what 
B&W
    > is made for. Here I think the color image works best.
    >
    > And I?m either disappointed in the quality of the film image or 
impressed
    > by that of the iPhone image ? both, I guess. This kind of image quality
    > from a camera tucked in almost as an afterthought, just because they 
could
    > do it, into the corner of a cell phone! That?s borderline miraculous.
    >
    > I didn?t expect this much grain with Tax 100, but I may have been
    > heavy-handed with Photoshop on the film image. Also, the scale of the
    > iPhone image is larger, with an equivalent FL of 28mm vs. the 21mm of 
the
    > film image. I?m going to scan the negative with my own scanner to get
    > equivalent pixels-per-degree in both images, re-process them both, and 
see.
    >
    >
    > C&C welcome.
    >
    > ?howard
    >
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