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Subject: [Leica] IIIf - HELP!!!!
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 10:27:04 -0500
References: <3b658587-7654-3eba-a0c4-dacd1dc9254f@summaventures.com> <B7663175-FDD0-46FC-95CA-3E36B3BE5C0C@gmail.com> <b6e55043-e16d-1f0f-883d-1a7a00bfc9e7@summaventures.com> <CC6725E3-FAB1-40DE-A27C-5F7891F408EF@rabinergroup.com> <17118c4b-18cc-383b-fd9b-9eff80f1e459@lighttube.net> <0E431BFB-227D-4844-9B41-F25C48A9ECCA@rabinergroup.com> <37e2e317-5e71-5118-0690-97578ca13c73@summaventures.com> <A3ABCB23-94E1-47EB-B584-967ACD318447@usjet.net> <594B96B6-757E-49FD-BD60-5D8398482760@rabinergroup.com> <DM6PR14MB2395124478B6502577EBC243AABD0@DM6PR14MB2395.namprd14.prod.outlook.com> <CA+3n+_mgtkoFpS8JfeWu6kmuXAfVABdSOvoMwgzOiKn7xACSRg@mail.gmail.com> <DM6PR14MB239505660B5A7995B82DDD74AABD0@DM6PR14MB2395.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

There are a bunch of them if you google it, but all you need to know is
make the tongue 20 or more sprocket holes long.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 9:50 AM, Mister Guy via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:

> I could scan my template if you think it would be useful.
>
> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>
> ________________________________
> From: LUG <lug-bounces+bliss64=hotmail.com at leica-users.org> on behalf of
> Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 9:02:43 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Cc: Don Dory
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IIIf - HELP!!!!
>
> OK, let me be the spoiler.  Other than a once a year romp exercising your
> LTM body why would you use one of these?  If you are on a budget the
> various Canon's are cheaper and far easier to load.  If you are a shooter a
> beat up M3 can be had at under 1K US and is a far easier camera to focus
> and use.
>
> My real point is for the periodic experience of using the camera HCB used
> all you need is to cut a few rolls 7-8 sprocket holes back and go have
> fun.  No need to worry about TSA and scissors or knives causing delay.  And
> in complete disclosure I do very occasionally take my F, IIIF BD, Canon
> IVb, Canon 7 out to play: although I won't pay for another CLA as the
> shutter dries out again and the slow speeds go off again.
>
> To be very clear there are a number of examples on the web showing exactly
> what the old leaders looked like so trimming a roll to a rough
> approximation of that profile is not difficult.  My experience is that if
> you get the trimmed part under 50% of the height of the film you are good
> to load.  Several decades ago on this list we had discussions about the
> various ways people loaded their cameras.  A rough consensus was to us B on
> the second or third wind from loading to confirm film transport and
> flatness without the lens on.
>
> All the best
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 3:10 AM, Mister Guy via LUG <lug at 
> leica-users.org>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Those leaders are easy to cut by hand with or without the template using
> > scissors of all things!
> >
> > Curt
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: LUG <lug-bounces+bliss64=hotmail.com at leica-users.org> on behalf 
> > of
> > Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 7:49 AM
> > To: Leica Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] IIIf - HELP!!!!
> >
> > Yes the LTM series was designed with the older longer leaders for
> loading.
> > Apparently it?s a big deal if you try putting a short leader in. IT
> doesn?t
> > like to be shorted. And will get back at you by turning your film into
> > confetti inside your camera.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Mark William Rabiner
> > Photographer
> >
> > ?On 4/10/18, 3:44 AM, "LUG on behalf of Robert Meier" <lug-bounces+mark=
> > rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of robertmeier at 
> > usjet.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >     But you need a longer leader than film comes with, not shorter.
> >
> >
> >     > On Apr 9, 2018, at 8:05 AM, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at 
> > summaventures.com>
> > wrote:
> >     >
> >     > I used to carry nail scissors and cut the leaders by hand, that was
> > until the
> >     > post-9/11 situation. All the fuss about what you could - and
> > couldn't - carry on
> >     > with you meant no more nail scissors. Now I just use the leader on
> > the film and
> >     > wind it round the take-up spool one extra time or so.
> >     >
> >     > It has incidentally affected my carbon footprint; I take trains
> > internationally
> >     > where I can and often drive. I fly far less than I used to.
> >     >
> >     > Peter
> >     >
> >     > On 09/04/2018 12:28, Mark Rabiner wrote:
> >     >> I tried the non-template me tear it myself approach which got me
> > into this mess in the first place.
> >     >> I'm now going to try using an idiot template. I have a feeling no
> > more messes.
> >     >> My leaders will no longer possess my inimitable personality; only
> > to be snipped off in the end.
> >     >>
> >     >>
> >     >>
> >     >>
> >     >
> >     > --
> >     >
> >     > ===========================================================
> >     > Dr Peter Dzwig
> >     >
> >     >
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> --
> Don
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-- 
Regards,

Sonny
http://sonc.com/look/
Natchitoches, Louisiana
1714
Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase

USA


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