Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2018/04/02

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Subject: [Leica] M10 Monochrom oh yes!
From: ken at iisaka.com (Ken Iisaka)
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 14:16:58 -0700
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There are so many factual errors. What Mark describes is Sigma Foveon
sensors. It has nothing to do with Bayer-layout sensors used by Leica and
most other cameras.

Just go take pictures.

On 1 April 2018 at 03:41, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:

> It?s the same speed but it can skip having to pass though various filters
> first in the RGB Bayer process. It's just direct.
> Makes for a far cleaner final result.
> As I understand it demosaicing means anything blue in the image has to
> pass through a red then green grid layer first.
> Anything green has to pass though just the red gird layer one first.
> And if it?s a red rose its fairly direct. Should look good.
> A black and white sensor has none of that. No grids. No layers. Everything
> direct.
> Its keeping it simple stupid. I like that.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photographer
>
> ?On 3/31/18, 12:14 PM, "LUG on behalf of Paul Roark via LUG"
> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>
>     On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 7:59 AM, chris williams via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org
>     > wrote:
>
>     > ?...
>     >
>     >
>     > Leica was able to use some kind of sensor made in Belgium that was
>     > strictly designed for monochromatic images.
>     >
>     > ?...
>
>     Yes, but aside from not having an R, G or B filter over the pixel, the
>     silicon is still the same speed as that under the filters of the color
>     sensors.  The monochrome's native speed is higher only because it has
> no
>     color filters over the pixels.  I don't think the Leica foundry has
> found
>     any breakthrough to increase silicon's native light sensitivity.
>
>     I'm not knocking the monochrome at all.  For street photography or
> where
>     you don't need a filter, it's truly faster and a great tool for those
> types
>     of photography.
>
>     Paul
>     www.PaulRoark.com
>
>
>     ?
>
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Ken Iisaka
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