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Subject: [Leica] M10 Monochrom oh yes!
From: zoeica at mac.com (chris williams)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 10:59:16 -0400
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I think it?s the new - oops I said it - sensor.

Leica was able to use some kind of sensor made in Belgium that was strictly 
designed for monochromatic images. 



Chris Williams
www.zoeicaimages.net
504-231-6261


> On Mar 31, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Paul Roark via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> My understanding of these high ISO numbers is that it's a function of how
> much the camera amplifies the signal.  There appears to be a native ISO of
> the sensor (probably about 320 for the M10?) and then there is an amplifier
> just under the pixel.  That one amplifies the signal before it's sent to
> the processor.  It may be the effective ISO after than initial
> amplification that is what really matters.  Noise is picked up in
> transferring the image data to the camera's processor from the sensor
> chip.  I'm not sure amplification in the camera's processor is any better
> than amplification in Photoshop.  So, I've been inclined to believe the
> important number is the effective ISO after the initial chip
> amplification.  After that, it may be just a sales gimmick.
> 
> Is this correct?
> 
> I think in the Sony a7rii I'm now using, the actual maximum effective ISO
> is about 800.  After that point I'm amplifying the noise as much as the
> signal.  What we're after is the best signal to noise ratio.
> 
> FWIW
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 7:39 AM, Jim Shulman <jshulman at judgecrater.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Ok, how much is that doggie in the window?
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018, 10:05 AM chris williams via LUG <lug at 
>> leica-users.org
>>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Well I can officially mention now that I?ve been testing a Monochrom
>>> version of the M10. The high iso is now insane! You can now record an
>> image
>>> at 450,000! Basically you can now see in the dark.
>>> 
>>> I?m a bit concerned with the body as this is the first time Leica has
>> used
>>> a polyconglomerate for the top and bottom plate. Will it crack instead of
>>> dent? I don?t want to test it, lol. It feels metal though.
>>> 
>>> Here is a quick test upload. I?m enjoying the WiFi function to send to my
>>> iPhone and iPad.
>>> 
>>> http://www.qygjxz.com/black-picture/6186044.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chris Williams
>>> www.zoeicaimages.net
>>> 504-231-6261
>>> 
>>> 
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