Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2017/01/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On Jan 25, 2017, at 10:06 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: > > Back to the original topic... the M10... > There are some things that have not changed the will keep me from even > wanting the M10: > 1. Exposures longer than 2s REQUIRE double the time to process a dark > frame for noise reduction... You can't disable it... > 2. There is still that quirky shutter lag using the live view (with LCD > back or Visoflex EVF) (albeit shorter per Leica representations, but stated > as "slight" in the manual. With electronic first shutter curtain a > "standard" these days, the fact that this has not been implemented is > really disappointing. > a. Use of live view causes double the shutter usage (shutter count > doubles) > b. This causes the camera to expose at what I call the indecisive > moment... Shutter lag probably sets a new Guinness record of second place: > the the M240 has greater lag. > 3. The amount of shutter time available in B mode is ISO dependent. If > like the M240, native ISO shutter open time is 120seconds. Double the > native ISO and the shutter open time is reduced by 1/2 (60s), and on down > until there is an 8second shutter open time in B mode. > > So these are key items that, though perhaps improved slightly with the M10 > over the M240, that continue to limit the options available to > photographers. > > Waiting for the M11 I guess? please forward this to Leica. steve > Bob > > > Bob Adler > www.robertadlerphotography.com > *"Capturing Light One Frame At A Time"* > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 5:15 AM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote: > >> If you have no ticket then there is no chance of winning the lottery, >> buying a single ticket gives you a greater chance.... >> >> john >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> Forgive me, Aram, for I am no mathematician, but I cannot understand how >> your friend can justify "very slightly". If I buy a ticket, the odds are 1 >> in 1 gazillion, which must (mathematically) be _infinitely_ better than >> zero in 1 gazillion. >> >> What I have misunderstood? >> >> Piers >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+piers.hemy=gmail.com at leica-users.org] On >> Behalf Of Aram >> Sent: 24 January 2017 16:02 >> To: Leica Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M10 >> >> You know, Gerry, as a math teacher friend of mine says, your odds of >> winning the lottery increase very slightly if you actually buy a ticket. >> >> >> Aram >> >> Aram Langhans >> (Semi) Retired Science Teacher >> & Unemployed photographer >> >> "The Human Genome Project has proved Darwin more right than Darwin himself >> would ever have dared dream." James D. Watson >> >> On 1/20/2017 10:42 PM, Gerry Walden wrote: >>> My initial comment was a bit tongue in cheek, but it seems to have >> started >> something. In previous models since the M9 I have felt that they are >> reiterations of the basic concept of a digital full-frame Leica, but I >> feel >> this one has gone a step further for some reason. >>> >>> Let me make it clear there is no way that I will be buying one unless I >> win the lottery, which is pretty unlikely as I never buy a ticket. >>> >>> Gerry >>> >>> >>>> On 21 Jan 2017, at 01:46, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I appreciate your response.... I was ( am?) looking for a reason to like >> it for myself.... >>>> >>>> Everyone is a unique person, with his/her own needs, and >> preferences..... >>>> And My M9 IS getting old.... and at some point will need to be >> replaced... >>>> >>>> Maybe, for me, putting out $6500 for a camera is not in the cards... >> unless the M9 dies.... >>>> But I do like to keep abreast of what is out there, and why others >> choose..... Your inputs I find invaluable research info from someone I >> respect. >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> >>>> Frank Filippone >>>> >>>> Red735i at verizon.net >>>> >>>> >>>> Frank - I like the fact there is no video, a larger eyepiece and much >> better iso. >>>> >>>> Gerry >>>>>> What feature or features convinced you that THIS was the new camera >> for >> you? >>>>>> >>>>>> Frank Filippone >>>>>> >>>>>> Red735i at verizon.net >>>>>> >>>>>> I have just watched a couple of short videos on YouTube about the new >> M10, and I want one. For the first time I have considered it is worth >> moving >> from my M9. Now all I have to do is sell my body and as my daughter put it >> once "as long as you sell it by weight you will be OK Dad". Children can >> be >> so rude! >>>>>> >>>>>> Gerry >>>> >>>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information