[Leica] Leica M10

[rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler)]

Back to the original topic... the M10...
There are some things that have not changed the will keep me from even
wanting the M10:
1.  Exposures longer than 2s REQUIRE double the time to process a dark
frame for noise reduction... You can't disable it...
2.  There is still that quirky shutter lag using the live view (with LCD
back or Visoflex EVF) (albeit shorter per Leica representations, but stated
as "slight" in the manual. With electronic first shutter curtain a
"standard" these days, the fact that this has not been implemented is
really disappointing.
     a. Use of live view causes double the shutter usage (shutter count
doubles)
     b. This causes the camera to expose at what I call the indecisive
moment... Shutter lag probably sets a new Guinness record of second place:
the the M240 has greater lag.
3.   The amount of shutter time available in B mode is ISO dependent. If
like the M240, native ISO shutter open time is 120seconds. Double the
native ISO and the shutter open time is reduced by 1/2 (60s), and on down
until there is an 8second shutter open time in B mode.

So these are key items that, though perhaps improved slightly with the M10
over the M240, that continue to limit the options available to
photographers.

Waiting for the M11 I guess...
Bob


Bob Adler
www.robertadlerphotography.com
*"Capturing Light One Frame At A Time"*

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 5:15 AM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote:

> If you have no ticket then there is no chance of winning the lottery,
> buying a single ticket gives you a greater chance....
>
> john
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Forgive me, Aram, for I am no mathematician, but I cannot understand how
> your friend can justify "very slightly". If I buy a ticket, the odds are 1
> in 1 gazillion, which must (mathematically) be _infinitely_ better than
> zero in 1 gazillion.
>
> What I have misunderstood?
>
> Piers
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+piers.hemy=gmail.com at leica-users.org] On
> Behalf Of Aram
> Sent: 24 January 2017 16:02
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M10
>
> You know, Gerry, as a math teacher friend of mine says, your odds of
> winning the lottery increase very slightly if you actually buy a ticket.
>
>
> Aram
>
> Aram Langhans
> (Semi) Retired Science Teacher
> & Unemployed photographer
>
> "The Human Genome Project has proved Darwin more right than Darwin himself
> would ever have dared dream." James D. Watson
>
> On 1/20/2017 10:42 PM, Gerry Walden wrote:
> > My initial comment was a bit tongue in cheek, but it seems to have
> started
> something. In previous models since the M9 I have felt that they are
> reiterations of the basic concept of a digital full-frame Leica, but I feel
> this one has gone a step further for some reason.
> >
> > Let me make it clear there is no way that I will be buying one unless I
> win the lottery, which is pretty unlikely as I never buy a ticket.
> >
> > Gerry
> >
> >
> >> On 21 Jan 2017, at 01:46, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> I appreciate your response.... I was ( am?) looking for a reason to like
> it for myself....
> >>
> >> Everyone is a unique person, with his/her own needs, and
> preferences.....
> >> And My M9 IS getting old.... and at some point will need to be
> replaced...
> >>
> >> Maybe, for me, putting out $6500 for a camera is not in the cards...
> unless the M9 dies....
> >> But I do like to keep abreast of what is out there, and why others
> choose.....   Your inputs I find invaluable research info from someone I
> respect.
> >>
> >> Thank you
> >>
> >> Frank Filippone
> >>
> >> Red735i at verizon.net
> >>
> >>
> >> Frank - I like the fact there is no video, a larger eyepiece and much
> better iso.
> >>
> >> Gerry
> >>>> What feature or features convinced you that THIS was the new camera
> for
> you?
> >>>>
> >>>> Frank Filippone
> >>>>
> >>>> Red735i at verizon.net
> >>>>
> >>>> I have just watched a couple of short videos on YouTube about the new
> M10, and I want one. For the first time I have considered it is worth
> moving
> from my M9. Now all I have to do is sell my body and as my daughter put it
> once "as long as you sell it by weight you will be OK Dad". Children can be
> so rude!
> >>>>
> >>>> Gerry
> >>
> >>
>
>
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