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Subject: [Leica] I think it can not be fixed
From: lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (lluisripollphotography)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 01:18:02 +0200
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Steve,

IMHO if you have a negative you will have something  for always, I don?t 
know if the digital files would  be always usable

Amiti?s
Lluis
   




> El 1 ag 2016, a les 0:40, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> va 
> escriure:
> 
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 10:25 AM, lluisripollphotography 
>>> <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would like add another concept, imagine you shot a great image you 
>>> want it was preserved by collectors for years ?., IMHO only film give 
>>> you this 100% guarantee.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 100 %  guarantee of what?
> 
> 
> fyi,   
> 
> 
> here?s another concept too Lluis, 
> 
> 
> Instead of one image you might have three, one possibly would be cropped 
> properly, and no dirt to worry about,
> 
> 
> All being important considerations.
> 
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Lluis
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> El 31 jul 2016, a les 19:20, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> 
>>>> va escriure:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am not Lluis, Steve, and I am no expert but I have recently gone 
>>>>> back to film for, say, 10-15% of my shooting. Why? Because it has some 
>>>>> ?je ne sais quoi? to it?tonality, magic, whatever.
>>>> 
>>>> Agree Nathan, but maybe the experience is entirely, "in the brain".
>>>> I suspect if we put up 50 digital images; and 50 film images and  
>>>> tested our ability to tell the difference, we would be right, probably 
>>>> as much as  50 percent of the time.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Steve
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> And there is a distinct pleasure in shooting my Leica M2 with period 
>>>>> lenses like the 50mm Summilux from the 1960s or the 90mm Tele-Elmarit 
>>>>> that still deliver such superb images. It may not be wholly rational, 
>>>>> but nobody is paying me to take pictures?I have a good day job which 
>>>>> provides me with a decent living?so I can take pictures in whatever 
>>>>> way pleases me. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am going to spend a day with Lluis in his summer home, Sitges, about 
>>>>> 30 km south of Barcelona. The plan is to walk around with him, and 
>>>>> hopefully use his invisibilty cloak and his charm to get some decent 
>>>>> shots of my own. I plan to shoot mainly film?I will take a digital 
>>>>> camera with me to supplement the M2, but most likely it will be just 
>>>>> the Ricoh GR or perhaps the Fuji X-T1 with just one lens, the tiny but 
>>>>> superb 27mm.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Nathan
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws 
>>>>> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: 
>>>>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ 
>>>>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator 
>>>>> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>>>>> YNWA
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 31 Jul 2016, at 18:07, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lluis, a question to run by you, now an expert, if this same image 
>>>>>> has been shot digitally, would you have had more power to fix it, the 
>>>>>> way you would like?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> many thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> amities,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 8:56 AM, lluisripollphotography 
>>>>>>> <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you Nathan, I forget it, as you say I have other images to work
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Un abrazo
>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> El 30 jul 2016, a les 7:15, Nathan Wajsman <photo at 
>>>>>>>> frozenlight.eu> va escriure:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Lluis, I am sure you can do something using Photoshop heroics and 
>>>>>>>> other voodoo but given how many great images you have in your 
>>>>>>>> files, it just does not seem worth the effort.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Un abrazo,
>>>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>>>>>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>>>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws 
>>>>>>>> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: 
>>>>>>>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ 
>>>>>>>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>>>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator 
>>>>>>>> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>>>>>>>> YNWA
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 30 Jul 2016, at 02:30, lluisripollphotography 
>>>>>>>>> <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Please take a look to this picture from 1992 (please view large), 
>>>>>>>>> I like very much the expression and the moment but the picture is 
>>>>>>>>> bad, beside the negative is dirty and I would have to clean, the 
>>>>>>>>> picture is undefined, out of focus, I think I can?t anything to 
>>>>>>>>> improve it? any idea?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Vintage/Vilanova_Vintage/199202007LR5.jpg.html>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c will be appreciated
>>>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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