Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2016/06/18
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hi Meino, Thank you very much again. My intention was to use the 1500w with B&W inks ONLY because it is a low cost printer and I think that with 6 B&W inks it could deliver a correct quality, on this case I suppose I can not have the metamarisme problem you mention. I like too have an european supplier, cheaper and fast if the quality is satisfactory. However I consider very difficult build my own ICC profiles, I have the Spyder 4 Pro. On this case what I was considering is have the 1500w for B&W only and maybe keep my R3000 for general use (B&W and color), but my color work it is so small that I think is better go to an external service when I need a copy... Cheers Lluis > El 18 juny 2016, a les 21:27, Meino de Graaf <meino at innerside.demon.nl> > va escriure: > > Lluis > > for color work the 1500 is ok. However for B&W it is not as good as the 9 > ink pigment printers of epson or canon. The problem is metamarisme (color > changes under influence of the light. A B&W print can be too green or too > magenta depending on the light that is used to view the print). Lyson inks > are british,and are sold by Marutt. They are an old name and are good > quality. A few years ago I found farbenwork as alternative for Marutt > (which was at that time a little expensive for shipping and handling). > Farbenwork is a german company, which is for me (in the Netherlands) very > convenient, because delivery is fast (1-2 days). Because archival > properties of the inks are not the most important aspects of the inks for > me, I switched to their Pigmaira range of inks that are a little cheaper. > One remark, if you start using these 3rd party inks, it is the best to be > able to make your own print profiles using for instance a Spyder analyser. > > Regards Meino > > > > Op 18-6-2016 om 00:23 schreef lluisripollphotography: >> Thank you Meino de Graaf, your comment is very interesting for me, I?ve >> sent too an e-mail to them asking several things. I?ve not found many >> information about them. What are the Lyson inks? I?m considering the >> possibility to use it with the Epson 1500w, a cheaper printer, do you >> think it makes a big difference 6 inks vs 9? >> >> Cheers >> Lluis >> >> >> >> >>> El 17 juny 2016, a les 23:30, Meino de Graaf <meino at >>> innerside.demon.nl> va escriure: >>> >>> Hi Lluis >>> >>> I went grom Inkjetmall to Marrut and ended with Farbenwork (because they >>> had also the lyson inks). I have no experience with their Carbon inks, >>> although I plan to start using them in my Epson R3000. I had some mail >>> exchangen with them in the past and my experinece with them is that they >>> are very helpfull. >>> >>> Regards Meino de Graaf >>> >>> Op 17-6-2016 om 14:52 schreef lluisripollphotography: >>>> As you know I have to decide what I do with my printer, up to the >>>> moment I was very happy with the B&W from my R3000, I have no intention >>>> to go to Canon, I have to decide if I repair, I buy a Epson P 600, I >>>> buy Epson 1500w (even is the possibility to buy 2, one for B&W and one >>>> for color for the same amount that the P600). I do very, very few color >>>> printing, in the case I can go to a external service. >>>> >>>> I have read that the problem with my printer, clogged, is quite usual >>>> using pigmented inks if the printer is not used frequently, Canon 100 >>>> don?t have this problem because it uses colorant inks, but the actual >>>> trends on printers, inks and papers are that all the developments are >>>> for pigmented inks. Secondly main of the systems I know have more >>>> developments for Epson than for Canon. These are my reasons. >>>> >>>> I?ve examined the existant systems, in my opinion I shall look for >>>> systems based in Europe, as far as I know there are two good ones: >>>> >>>> <http://www.taos-photographic.com>: This Company is the European >>>> distributor of Inkjet Mall (Cone Colors) The inconvenient is that they >>>> don?t have cartridges for the EPSON 1500w >>>> >>>> <http://www.farbenwerk.com/farbenwerk-Home-eng> >>>> >>>> I would appreciate if someone have some information about: >>>> >>>> - Farbenwerk reviews, experiences? >>>> - Quality compared with Epson 1500w, R3000, P 600 with Epson inks and >>>> Carbon inks (Inkjet Mall or Farbenwerk) >>>> - I see 1500w is 6 inks vs R000 or P 600 are 9 inks. How much can be >>>> the difference using only B&W inks? >>>> - Farbenwerk says that not RIP is required. I don?t know which can be >>>> the difference if using RIP and/or QTR Driver >>>> - I suppose that the first time you fill the printer with B&W inks you >>>> spend a certain quantity of ink cleaning and filling. How much?? >>>> >>>> I have no experience on these aspects, neither in building own ICC >>>> profiles and I have no intention to do them, I don?t have enough time. >>>> I would appreciate if there are some books or sites where I can get >>>> some information about Carbon Printing. >>>> >>>> Thank you very much! >>>> >>>> Saludos cordiales >>>> Lluis >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information