Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2016/06/17
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I probably have my biases, but I obviously prefer the carbon inks. The MIS B&W inks are my designs -- most open source that they just picked up. Originally Bob Zeiss there was very good and helpful. The new owners are people I don't know much about. I have never had any formal agreement or connection to MIS and never received any royalties. I just make what I want and publish the formulas. The early B&W inksets were, to a certain extent, a learning experience. They worked well for a fair number of people. In the days of the Epson 1280, the third party B&W inksets made such better prints than the OEM inks that, when my "UT2" desing for the 1280 was released by MIS, which had 30,000 customers, UT2 became their best selling product within one week. Those days are over. With the advent of the K3 inkset approach by the OEMs most people just went that direction. By that time I'd done enough of my own fade testing to know what the weaknesses of the inks were, and it's the color that is used in them to neutralize the warm carbon. The carbon is incredibly strong. So, I decided to try and make a 100% carbon inkset. Today the only 100% carbon inks are those using the carbon usually known as MIS "Eboni" and Cone's carbon sepia. All the others have color pigments in them to offset the warmth of the carbon. Those color inks fade at different rates, causing tone shifts. The 100% carbon inks are extremely lightfast -- far better than the OEM B&W approaches or even the old selenium toned silver prints. As a practical matter, with 100% carbon pigment the paper is the weak link. That is why I believe the only prints that will look good hundreds of years from now might be those printed on Arches watercolor paper (uncoated) with the Eboni or similar carbon. While the 100% carbon inks are very tough, the third party sellers do not have economical access to the best color pigments. Thus the "carbon" inks made by MIS or Cone suffer tone shifts worse than the OEM B&W approaches. That is why my current B&W inks use Canon cyan and blue pigments to tone the carbon. These latest inks still suffer some tone shifting, but they are beating the silver print, which is good enough for me. Third party inks have a bad reputation for clogging. I, personally, have not had the problem. I do try to run my printers at least once very two weeks. One of the primary causes of clogging is the binder that is in inks designed for glossy paper. It's glue to keep the pigs from being rubbed off slick glossy paper. The "Eboni-6" formula is made for matte paper only and has no binders in the dilution base. In my experience, it is the least likely pigment inkset to clog. Another primary factor in clogging is the ink pigment load. The Eboni MK (MIS's trade name) that I base the Eboni-6 inkset on is a high load MK. If my 7800 is going to show a gap in the nozzle check, it's almost always the 100% MK and a couple specific nozzles at the bottom of the head. In fact, with the new version of Eboni (v. 1.1) even this is rare if the sit time is only 2 weeks. I, in fact, do not buy much from MIS. I buy from their supplier. Image Specialists (and owner/founder/chemist Walt ---- [never knew his last name]) designed the MK that I selected as the one to base my current inksets on. It gave the best dmax and also most neutral 100% carbon image. It is a high load/density MK. By starting out as more neutral, less color is needed to make a truly neutral B&W. This means less color to differentially fade and cause a tone shift. Walt died and STS Inks bought IS. STS modified the Eboni MK only (they say) by upgrading the dispersant to a state of the art product. (There have been advances.) The new Eboni is not quite as neutral as the old, but still better than any of the alternatives. "Eboni" from STS inks is their product wj1082. (W is probably for Walt.) A liter costs $75. This is not on their web site, but I can supply the contact for anyone interested. I then dilute this myself with the generic base that I formulated. (It didn't hurt that my brother was a PhD chemist.) The cost of my B&W carbon inks ends up being about 2 orders of magnitude less than the cost of ink in small Epson cartridges. It is the most lightfast ever tested by http://www.aardenburg-imaging.com/ (the best -- Mark the owner/founder was a scientist with the national gallery for about 30 years). As best I can tell, and according to my experiences, this 100% carbon inkset is the least likely to clog of any pigment inkset, OEM inksets included. Most third party inks are said to be garbage. For those who really want the best for the least, however, there is a DIY approach that a lot of people now use with great success. MIS sells the inks premixed (but not the Canon toner). My various B&W projects are usually summarized in PDFs that I put on my web page. http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/ is my B&W information home page. Eboni-6 as well as some fade test results are summarized at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-6.pdf. I discuss ink mixing here: http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Ink-Mixing.pdf I generally use Google even to find my own PDFs. This is not rocket science; carbon inks have been used for thousands of years. While the best color pigments for inkjet printing are tied up with the OEMs, carbon is easy for the third party types to get. Not for everyone ... Paul www.PaulRoark.com