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Subject: [Leica] 50 APO Summicron on sale.... Overstock.com
From: zoeica at mac.com (chris williams)
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 13:55:49 -0500
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Hey if the image looks good who cares right?



Chris Williams
www.zoeicaimages.net
504-231-6261


> On Dec 9, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Howard Ritter <hlritter at bex.net> wrote:
> 
> Some informal testing that I did a couple of years ago photographing the 
> same scene with several cameras whose sensor sizes ranged from 4 x 6 mm to 
> FF, and their zooms all set to the same actual FL, convinced me that 
> contemporary sensors fall far short of capturing all the information 
> present in the optical image projected onto them, at least in the central 
> zones. Every time I looked at a pair of images on-screen presented at the 
> same image scale, there came a point in progressive enlargement where I 
> would see more native resolution in the image from the smaller sensor. 
> This continued, as I recall, until somewhere between the 1?-class 20-MPx 
> sensor and the 4 x 6-mm, 12-MPx P&S sensor. Since the smallest sensor, 
> with 12 MPx, is the equivalent of a small section (1/25) of a FF sensor 
> with 300 MPx, I concluded that it would take a FF sensor of well over 100 
> MPx to match the native resolution of even the zoom on the P&S camera 
> (though, to be fair, I think where high-end lenses surpass mass-market 
> ones is in the zones well off-axis, and at wide apertures). 
> 
> So I?m not surprised that you?re not seeing a difference between the 
> apo-asph Summicron and the regular version; FF sensors of 24 MPx are 
> simply not capable of showing even the full resolution of the standard 
> lens, let alone any improvement on it.
> 
> And this brings up the possibilities for dispensing with zooms and 
> interchangeable lenses altogether for general purposes. If a camera with a 
> fixed WA lens had a FF 200-MPx sensor and a digital zoom function, and an 
> EVF, it would have the same capabilities as a big FF DSLR with a 24-120 
> zoom?even with a linear 1/5 crop, equivalent to a 5x zoom, it would still 
> give an 8-MPx image file, quite adequate for most purposes. Think Leica Q 
> with a denser sensor and a zoom lever.
> 
> ?howard
> 
> 
>> On Dec 9, 2015, at 1:17 PM, chris williams <zoeica at mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Right, no way I would ever see the true resolving power of it when I'm 
>> usually shooting wide open at slow speeds.
>> 
>> 
>> Chris Williams
>> www.zoeicaimages.net
>> 504-231-6261
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 9, 2015, at 1:15 PM, lluisripollphotography 
>>> <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Chris,
>>> 
>>> For my style I agree, I?ve shoot some pics with the one of Jay when he 
>>> has visited Barcelona, I think it is a very good lens if you want to 
>>> perfect pictures, big enlargements with tripod
>>> 
>>> Lluis
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> El 9 des 2015, a les 19:10, chris williams <zoeica at mac.com> va 
>>>> escriure:
>>>> 
>>>> I dunno I tested this lens and I don't see a difference between it and 
>>>> the 50/2 Summicron.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris Williams
>>>> www.zoeicaimages.net
>>>> 504-231-6261
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 9, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> $6,000
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> They have 3 in stock...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Leica-APO-Summicron-M-50mm-f-2.0-ASPH-L
>>>>> ens/10701431/product.html?searchidx=5
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>>> 
>>>>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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