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Subject: [Leica] Backup hardware: USB3 HDD
From: nwajsman at gmail.com (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:42:24 +0200
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They all use the same contract manufacturers in China, so I very much doubt 
that there are systematic differences between brands.

Cheers,
Nathan

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> On 28 Sep 2015, at 07:25, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> My point is simply that there is "fool-proof" brands any more. Some dates,
> Seagte is better, others, it may be Hitachi... and so it goes.
> 
> On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 8:17 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> People on these LUG backup conversations seldom mention the idea that as
>> long as your backups are not too far apart if one of them turns out to be
>> corrupted you've still got the one before that so its not like you've lost
>> everything.  You've only lost your more current stuff. And if you've 
>> double
>> backed up then you've not even lost that.
>> I'm just saying the world doesn't end if every drive you've ever backed up
>> to does not last forever. As you know that's not going to happen anyway 
>> and
>> it doesn't have to.
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/27/15 4:52 PM, "Adam Bridge" <abridge683 at fastmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I agree with Frank. Backups require a variety of solutions. Having a
>> ?direct
>>> connect? hard drive is a fundamental part of that solution. Having an
>> off-site
>>> backup is another. There are a variety of solutions for this as well.
>> I?ve
>>> been using arq software to backup my images to Amazon?s ?Glacier? storage
>>> although I could have used any of the Amazon S3 storage tiers as well.
>> Depends
>>> on how quickly you want to be able to restore. Since I?m unlikely to
>> need to
>>> download on a moment by moment basis Glacier, which uses off-line
>> storage, is
>>> a reasonable bet. It seems reasonably affordable. Amazon knows a lot
>> about
>>> secure storage solutions and they won?t use my images to sell me ads or
>> market
>>> me.
>> 
>> Virtually all my images live on a large Promise Pegasus Thunderbolt 2
>>> external RAID. I back that up to a Drobo. This doesn?t entirely solve the
>>> image integrity issue, however. I?d like to have a check-sum to verify
>> each
>>> image against and a more rigorous file system than Mac OS X currently
>>> employes. I?m hoping that in the future Apple will create a file system
>> built
>>> around data integrity like ZFS. But this seems unlikely to me as Apple
>> focuses
>>> more and more on iOS products. I suppose I could build a Linux box with
>> ZFS
>>> but I?m beyond the place where that seems interesting to me and it
>> doesn?t
>>> solve the problem on the Mac. And I don?t do Windows.
>> 
>> If we?re going to keep
>>> terabytes of data around we have to care about keeping it reliable. It?s
>> just
>>> a different part of the game. I wish the hardware and OS guys would
>> really
>>> focus on this but as a selling point to consumers it isn?t important.
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 27, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Frys Electronics has a Western Digital 5TB external USB3.0 drive on sale
>>> for $120. This is a massive amount of storage (in Leica M240 terms, about
>>> 200,000 raw  images). If you are looking for a backup HDD, this is a cost
>>> effective solution.
>>> 
>>> Please, no outbursts of WD is no good, brand Z is
>>> better.  Or some techie version of why you should only use NAS drives.
>> This
>>> is a simple, cost effective, low tech way to backup your
>>> computer.
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
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>> 
>> 
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