Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/06/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The Sony A7 was about the same size as an Olympus OM-D. And its gorgeous. An OM-D is not just a cropped camera like your plain vanilla 1.5 crop. It's a 2x crop. Maitani would be turning over in his grave. If he's dead. On 6/10/15 9:39 PM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > Looks like Sony is in the camera biz on the long fun too! Its not just > Walkman > any more. MP3 Players. This a high rez body. But with a host of > innovations > which will take awhile to all sink in. > I admit to being thrilled with watching footage from it " It is the > world?s > first digital camera to offer this in-camera full-frame format 4K recording > capacity" > Of course for some here the main attraction is its accepting other lenses > from > other companies other than Cosina made Zeiss. Like Leica made Leica. > > > On 6/10/15 2:44 PM, "Doug Herr" <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> wrote: > >> Meanwhile Sony has announced the a7rII, w/ a7II form factor, 42MP BSI >> sensor, >> PDAF, silent mode shutter and 5-axis stabilization (3-axis for non-native >> lenses) about $3200, shipping in August. >> >> Doug Herr >> Birdman of Sacramento >> http://www.wildlightphoto.com >> http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Scott Gregory <scottgregory at mac.com> >>> Sent: Jun 10, 2015 11:35 AM >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] The Q Leica >>> >>> Mark you've just got to get a job selling Leica! "Soon everyone will have >>> one >>> in their coat pocket" could be the next buzz words in their ads! >>> I, too would like to see the quality of the Q next to the same shot from >>> an >>> M. >>> Maybe the Q would be better. And it might not have any oil spots or dust >>> on >>> the sensor, at least we can hope!! >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 10, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm thinking if you made a 13x19 inch print with your M and hung another >>>> one >>>> same size right next to it made with the also full frame Q the quality >>>> would >>>> very possibly not be at all lacking when you are looking at those two >>>> prints >>>> side to side. You might just be looking at matching image quality. >>>> Leica won't sell lenes as a result of a Q sale but those puppies will >>>> fly >>>> out the Am Leitz Park faster than the M's. Soon everybody will have one >>>> in >>>> their coat pocket. Problem is summer is upon us. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 6/10/15 11:02 AM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The Q Leica is out and I'm excited. >>>>> Its a direct response to the full frame Sony DSC-RX1 compact >>>>> rangefinder >>>>> camera which came out September 12, 2012 and didn't create a new market >>>>> niche as I thought it would. It has stood alone. One thing hipster >>>>> camera >>>>> buyers really don't care about is the bottom line image quality so they >>>>> revert to cropped $999 formats a thing I'll do when the camera can be >>>>> worn >>>>> as a tie clip. And go off by itself when I wink my left eye. >>>>> The new Q is very much like the RX1 in that the lens is an all out >>>>> assault >>>>> taking no prisoners approach with compactness not being one of the >>>>> first >>>>> parameters oddly enough on a compact camera. So it becomes quite an >>>>> effete >>>>> item with this amazing chuck of glass on the front of it making for a >>>>> much >>>>> bigger pocket you'd get to slide it in. I'd have done the opposite and >>>>> put >>>>> >>>> a >>>>> collapsible 3.5 on the front of it or 2.8 like on Rollie 35. And not >>>>> have >>>>> it >>>>> be a mini monster. The point of the camera is that its with you . >>>>> Taking >>>>> better pix by far than your cell phone. >>>>> Selling for 4 and quarter grand $ if it slows down sales on M's Leica >>>>> won't >>>>> be loosing any money. >>>>> I'd kill for one. If there's a dead body on the sidewalk with a Q >>>>> missing >>>>> you'll know I did it. If you buy one I'd walk on well lit streets in >>>>> public >>>>> places. And put a blonde mustache on your glasses nose. >>>>> >>>>> With big drum rolls Leica in the past years introduced a couple of >>>>> camera >>>>> systems which they said would put a dent in what pros used for their >>>>> photography. They were not a response to the Sony RX1. The Sony RX1 >>>>> could >>>>> take them to the cleaners as these were cropped cameras and no one >>>>> thinks >>>>> the results we get from an M or a DSLR is going to be threatened by a >>>>> cropped camera. Its apples and oranges. Or as the French say Apples and >>>>> Pears.... In this cropped camera cast aluminum with an iPhone >>>>> interface. >>>>> The Q will be a camera which will made with results not overshadowed by >>>>> the >>>>> M system just like a Rollei 35 did against any full sized 35mm camera. >>>>> Why? >>>>> The format was the same. Plus Zeiss glass. Just don't jerk the camera >>>>> when >>>>> you take the picture. >>>>> Leica was in no hurry to do this. As its taken years. I think they know >>>>> now >>>>> for sure they're in this for the long haul. >>>>> But doing it is a smart move became if there is a company which is >>>>> making >>>>> a >>>>> compact full frame rangefinder top quality competitive to full sized >>>>> cameras >>>>> it should be Leica. Leica is the company which invented quality compact >>>>> photography. It should not be the company which finds it ill advised >>>>> as we >>>>> mustn't compete with ourselves. >>>>> >>>>> By the way I just read the whole time the Sony has been out which is >>>>> almost >>>>> 3 years no firmware fixes to some quirky issues. >>>>> BAD Sony! >>>>> Lets see if they respond to Leica. Or if any body else does. I'd love >>>>> to >>>>> see >>>>> a third full frame compact rangefinder in the camera store. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>> Photographer >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > -- Mark William Rabiner Photographer http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/