Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/05/28
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Truly, likely more than enough of this Douglas, no further guessing and speculations.... which you must admit, has been from the very beginning, including the referendum itself, about, "what do you think you know?". "all sound and fury signifying nothing." fwiw, and my respect and condolences for your wife, whom I hope will surprise all, and do well. steve > On May 28, 2015, at 10:19 AM, Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote: > > Fascinating, Steve. What did the pictures tell about me? What way did you > think I voted? I'll tell you if you're right when you reply. > > Why did I take them? Opportunity. > > My wife is ill as you may know, and while waiting for her to cast her > votes - there were two referendums - I was waiting outside, saw a range of > expressions and heard snatches of conversation from the exiting voters, so > decided to grab my camera. I took a couple of shots before a passing > friend of mine interrupted, deciding to talk to me about his new play "A > Fairytale of New York". Then my wife came out, we went to the chemists - > haven't switched chemists to the new location either, collected her new > hormonal treatment - well, a rerun - as the consultant has switched her > back from chemo due to neuropathy, and headed to the hospital so that she > could be treated. > > By the time we got back home afterwards, I didn't feel like going out > again to take more shots at the Monkstown polling station. My student son > was working in a polling station in Dublin, and, indeed, worked on the > count the following day, but I was tied up with other matters. Pity, as > the counts are always photogenic, and, as my first cousin is the Returning > Officer for Dublin City (as Sheriff), so I could have almost had a family > get together. > > Douglas > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Barbour" <steve.barbour at > gmail.com> > To: "LUG Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Leica] IMGs: Polling Day 1 & 2 > > >> >>> On May 28, 2015, at 1:25 AM, Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Steve Barbour" <steve.barbour at gmail.com> enquired regarding >>>>>>> >>>>> Possibly "NO" voters. Florence Road, Bray, Co. Wicklow. Fuji X100S >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/DouglasBray/politics/Polling1.jpg.html >>>>> >>>>> Possibly a "YES" voter. Florence Road, Bray, Co. Wicklow. Fuji X100S >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/DouglasBray/politics/Polling2.jpg.html >>> <<<< >>>> so what motivates your taking pictures and guessing about these two >>>> particular sets of circumstances? >Was your conclusion based on age, >>>> smiles, demographics? >>> >>> So what motivates my taking pictures? I suppose it's an inate curiosity >>> about slowing life down to capture a moment and seeing what the image of >>> that moment might subsequently tell me. Everybody has prejudices - >>> including you, Steve - and I like to see whether my own perceived >>> prejudices have been fed. >>> The circumstances that led me to the guesses were shaped by participants >>> in the all pervading discussions on radio and television during the >>> referendum campaign, and the type of people who either called to my >>> house to canvass or buttonholed me in the street to try to get me to >>> vote in particular ways. >>> >>> So what motivated you to ask about my motivation? Was there a disconnect >>> between you and my guesses, and what was it based on? >> >> as you likely know Douglas I like your pictures, as well as your funny, >> ironic, quirky humor. My question was not "what motivates you to take >> pictures ?" it was, "what motivated you to take these particular pictures >> ?" >> >> I believe that in spite of what is often stated..."pictures don't lie" >> which is often correct, that given context, pictures can be used to >> corroborate/ie prove any conclusion...so they can and do lie, most >> pointedly they can be used to lie, so as to support our own >> preconceptions. >> >> I know that you agree that these two photos in themselves prove nothing, >> they tell us more about you, than the subjects of the images, I was >> rather surprised at your use of them. >> >> Why did I ask? exactly because this was a contentious vote, now we know >> how the electorate has voted, though we do not know whether your own >> conclusions were correct, we only know something of your own >> preconceptions, what you concluded, the question remains why ? and why >> does it matter ? >> >> >> steve >> >> >> >> >>> >>> Douglas >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information