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Subject: [Leica] IMGs: Polling Day 1 & 2
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 07:22:30 -0700
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> On May 28, 2015, at 1:25 AM, Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote:
> 
> 
> "Steve Barbour" <steve.barbour at gmail.com> enquired regarding
>>>>> 
>>> Possibly "NO" voters. Florence Road, Bray, Co. Wicklow. Fuji X100S
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/DouglasBray/politics/Polling1.jpg.html
>>> 
>>> Possibly a "YES" voter. Florence Road, Bray, Co. Wicklow. Fuji X100S
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/DouglasBray/politics/Polling2.jpg.html
> <<<<
>> so what motivates your taking pictures and guessing about these two 
>> particular sets of circumstances? >Was your conclusion based on age, 
>> smiles, demographics?
> 
> So what motivates my taking pictures? I suppose it's an inate curiosity 
> about slowing life down to capture a moment and seeing what the image of 
> that moment might subsequently tell me. Everybody has prejudices - 
> including you, Steve - and I like to see whether my own perceived 
> prejudices have been fed.
> The circumstances that led me to the guesses were shaped by participants 
> in the all pervading discussions on radio and television during the 
> referendum campaign, and the type of people who either called to my house 
> to canvass or buttonholed me in the street to try to get me to vote in 
> particular ways.
> 
> So what motivated you to ask about my motivation? Was there a disconnect 
> between you and my guesses, and what was it based on?

as you likely know Douglas I like your pictures, as well as your funny, 
ironic, quirky humor. My question was not  "what motivates you to take 
pictures ?" it was, "what motivated you to take these particular pictures ?"

I believe that in spite of what is often stated..."pictures don't lie" which 
is often correct, that given context, pictures can be used to corroborate/ie 
prove any conclusion...so they can and do lie, most pointedly they can be 
used to lie, so as to support our own preconceptions.

I know that you agree that these two photos in themselves prove nothing, 
they tell us more about you, than the subjects of the images, I was rather 
surprised at your use of them. 

Why did I ask? exactly because this was a contentious vote, now we know how 
the electorate has voted, though we do not know whether your own conclusions 
were correct, we only know something of your own preconceptions, what you 
concluded, the question remains why ?  and why does it matter ?


steve




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