Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/02/26
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]And they would know that because of those handy compact plug and play time machines which look like countertop Microwaves you just stick the film in set the timer and watch through the window to find the film magically falling apart in the year 2015 if its starting date was the year 2000. When they teach a monkey to talk someone can send it to the year 2525 and it can come back and tell us if man is still alive. Or monkeys. And if I can get a holographic back for my Hasselblad. Those old Zeiss Lenses have to be good for something. The xp1 and xp2 film I shot was shot way before the year 2000 that's for sure. January, 1981 they year the stuff came out. Looks as good as the day it came out of the soup. By the way: "In 2013, Ilford introduced a version of their black-and-white single-use camera which includes 27 exposures of XP2 Super film." On 2/26/15 11:30 PM, "Dennis Kushner" <dennis.leicam6 at gmail.com> wrote: > Ilford tech data says that XP2 lasts about 15 years before deteriorating. > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:53 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > wrote: > >> The Kodak had the deep orange base to it that all the full color color neg >> films has which made it easy to print color and for the one hour photo >> machines to print black and white. But that orange base made it murder to >> print with an enlarger because the orange base was like a safelight. The >> enlarging times took forever. >> The Ilford xp1 then xp2 though did not have that heavy orange base so >> could >> be printed nicely in a normal darkroom with a normal enlarger. >> So all the people I know went for the Ilford for that reason. Most of them >> had darkrooms or when to our rental place. U Develop on Barbour Blvd. in >> Portland Oregon. >> >> On 2/26/15 7:29 PM, "Peter Dzwig" <pdzwig at summaventures.com> wrote: >> >>> I had been told that BW400CN was unavailable too. In fact I bought a few >> rolls >>> for old time's sake. >>> >>> But you are right there are some on Amazon. Be careful though. I saw one >> at >>> roughly the standard price, but the shipping (from Germany) doubled the >> price >>> - >>> and they only have one left. >>> >>> Ilford XP2 is certainly a very plausible alternative. For a high contract >>> comparison see: >>> >>> < >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/album230/album284/Camelot_1200510 >>> 10.jpg.html> >>> >>> and >>> >>> < >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/album230/album284/Camelot_2XP2200 >>> 51010.jpg.html> >>> >>> from a time I was comparing them. >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> On 26/02/2015 03:03, Sonny Carter wrote: >>>> Kodak BW CN is still available. You can buy it from B&H, or Amazon. >>>> >>>> from my iPad >>>> >>>> Sonny Carter >>>> >>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Kodak stopped making their chromogenic black and white film (what this >> is >>>>> called) a few years ago but Ilford still makes XP2 which I've used this >>>>> decade to shoot film. It's embarrassingly good. Its made of dye >> instead of >>>>> silver but how would you know? You can be all into darkroom chemistry >> and >>>>> developing and be lucky to approach it with regular black and white >> films >>>>> rated at 400. It seems to have the grain and sharpness of 100 films. >>>>> As far as archivalness goes regular black and white film seems to last >>>>> forever with a bit of care and luck but color neg always had a bad rep. >>>>> The reason was when you brought it back into the darkroom again to make >>>>> another print from a neg you'd printed before you count often not >> match the >>>>> preceding print. The various color layers faded not at the same rate so >>>>> you'd get color crossover. And there was no way to make a real good >> print. >>>>> This did not take years to take place but months and even weeks and >> some >>>>> color custom printers have told me days but I didn't see it with my own >>>>> eyes. >>>>> >>>>> XP2 only has one layer so if it fades a few percentage points you can >> just >>>>> add some contrast and probably match a print you'd made with it was >> fresh. >>>>> All my Xp2 I've shot for decades still looks good and I'd expect would >> print >>>>> perfectly. Certainly scan perfectly. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 2/25/15 8:11 PM, "Ken Carney" <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I can second that. Ilford and Kodak make b&w films for C41 processing >>>>>> (WalMart, Walgreen etc.), and in my experience they scan better than >>>>>> conventional negatives. A downside is that they are shorter-lived, >> but >>>>>> in theory at least they are forever once scanned. Or, absent >> scanning, >>>>>> as a long-time client of mine once said, at my age I don't buy green >>>>>> bananas. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ken >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2/25/2015 5:08 PM, Sonny Carter wrote: >>>>>>> Have you checked Walgreen's? Most of them still run C41, and you >> show >>>>>>> three >>>>>>> stores in town. Check the one on Houston hwy, since it is close to >> UH. >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> don't love their scans (at least at mine) but they do a good job of >>>>>>> processing, and I do lots of small prints up to 8x10 there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> from my iPad >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sonny Carter >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Bill Clough < >> billclough042541 at gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> USA >>>>>>>> TEXAS >>>>>>>> VICTORIA >>>>>>>> 25 February 2015 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi there-- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Never occurred to me--until now--to look through the Leica M's >>>>>>>> viewfinder after cataract surgery. To my surprise, I now can frame >> and >>>>>>>> focus again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have source for film but even the local drug stores no longer >> are >>>>>>>> processing film. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I still have the kinder man tanks but would like to avoid all >> that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm open to any suggestions about where 35mm film still is >> processed >>>>>>>> professionally. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Reply here are offline-- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks-- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --Bill >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>>> Photographer >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark William Rabiner >> Photographer >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Mark William Rabiner Photographer http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/