Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/02/26
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Ilford tech data says that XP2 lasts about 15 years before deteriorating. On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:53 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > The Kodak had the deep orange base to it that all the full color color neg > films has which made it easy to print color and for the one hour photo > machines to print black and white. But that orange base made it murder to > print with an enlarger because the orange base was like a safelight. The > enlarging times took forever. > The Ilford xp1 then xp2 though did not have that heavy orange base so could > be printed nicely in a normal darkroom with a normal enlarger. > So all the people I know went for the Ilford for that reason. Most of them > had darkrooms or when to our rental place. U Develop on Barbour Blvd. in > Portland Oregon. > > On 2/26/15 7:29 PM, "Peter Dzwig" <pdzwig at summaventures.com> wrote: > > > I had been told that BW400CN was unavailable too. In fact I bought a few > rolls > > for old time's sake. > > > > But you are right there are some on Amazon. Be careful though. I saw one > at > > roughly the standard price, but the shipping (from Germany) doubled the > price > > - > > and they only have one left. > > > > Ilford XP2 is certainly a very plausible alternative. For a high contract > > comparison see: > > > > < > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/album230/album284/Camelot_1200510 > > 10.jpg.html> > > > > and > > > > < > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/album230/album284/Camelot_2XP2200 > > 51010.jpg.html> > > > > from a time I was comparing them. > > > > Peter > > > > On 26/02/2015 03:03, Sonny Carter wrote: > >> Kodak BW CN is still available. You can buy it from B&H, or Amazon. > >> > >> from my iPad > >> > >> Sonny Carter > >> > >>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Kodak stopped making their chromogenic black and white film (what this > is > >>> called) a few years ago but Ilford still makes XP2 which I've used this > >>> decade to shoot film. It's embarrassingly good. Its made of dye > instead of > >>> silver but how would you know? You can be all into darkroom chemistry > and > >>> developing and be lucky to approach it with regular black and white > films > >>> rated at 400. It seems to have the grain and sharpness of 100 films. > >>> As far as archivalness goes regular black and white film seems to last > >>> forever with a bit of care and luck but color neg always had a bad rep. > >>> The reason was when you brought it back into the darkroom again to make > >>> another print from a neg you'd printed before you count often not > match the > >>> preceding print. The various color layers faded not at the same rate so > >>> you'd get color crossover. And there was no way to make a real good > print. > >>> This did not take years to take place but months and even weeks and > some > >>> color custom printers have told me days but I didn't see it with my own > >>> eyes. > >>> > >>> XP2 only has one layer so if it fades a few percentage points you can > just > >>> add some contrast and probably match a print you'd made with it was > fresh. > >>> All my Xp2 I've shot for decades still looks good and I'd expect would > print > >>> perfectly. Certainly scan perfectly. > >>> > >>> > >>>> On 2/25/15 8:11 PM, "Ken Carney" <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I can second that. Ilford and Kodak make b&w films for C41 processing > >>>> (WalMart, Walgreen etc.), and in my experience they scan better than > >>>> conventional negatives. A downside is that they are shorter-lived, > but > >>>> in theory at least they are forever once scanned. Or, absent > scanning, > >>>> as a long-time client of mine once said, at my age I don't buy green > >>>> bananas. > >>>> > >>>> Ken > >>>> > >>>>> On 2/25/2015 5:08 PM, Sonny Carter wrote: > >>>>> Have you checked Walgreen's? Most of them still run C41, and you > show > >>>>> three > >>>>> stores in town. Check the one on Houston hwy, since it is close to > UH. > >>>>> I > >>>>> don't love their scans (at least at mine) but they do a good job of > >>>>> processing, and I do lots of small prints up to 8x10 there. > >>>>> > >>>>> from my iPad > >>>>> > >>>>> Sonny Carter > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Bill Clough < > billclough042541 at gmail.com> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> USA > >>>>>> TEXAS > >>>>>> VICTORIA > >>>>>> 25 February 2015 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hi there-- > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Never occurred to me--until now--to look through the Leica M's > >>>>>> viewfinder after cataract surgery. To my surprise, I now can frame > and > >>>>>> focus again. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have source for film but even the local drug stores no longer > are > >>>>>> processing film. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I still have the kinder man tanks but would like to avoid all > that. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'm open to any suggestions about where 35mm film still is > processed > >>>>>> professionally. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Reply here are offline-- > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks-- > >>>>>> > >>>>>> --Bill > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Mark William Rabiner > >>> Photographer > >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photographer > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >