Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/02/22
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Sent from my iPad > On Feb 22, 2014, at 8:06 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> > wrote: > > Bob I see Barcelona as your perfect retirement present trip for the Adlers > ;-) > Since I've been lucky enough to spend some days with my good friend Lluis > over some years, I think I can comment further on his 'magic' > I have never met anyone who works so hard and consistently at his craft. > That's nine tenths of his magic The rest hardly matters. > > > Cheers > Geoff > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > >> On 23 February 2014 11:58, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I know... >> *sigh* >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 4:11 AM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com >>> wrote: >> >>> Bob the very best way to absorb the instruction from Don Lluis is to walk >>> and shoot with him all day in a superb city environment (with intervals >> for >>> delicious Catalan food) then sit over a beer in front of the computer >> with >>> Lluis. You need to go to Barcelona! >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> Geoff >>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>> >>> >>>> On 21 February 2014 17:25, Bob Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thank you Lluis. An excellent tutorial that gives a starting point to >> us >>>> novices who wish to develop our own processes. >>>> You are very generous. >>>> Best, >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>>> On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Lluis Ripoll < >>>>> lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thank you Susan, Gerry, Bob, Larry and others ... I really think I >>> don't >>>> deserve such mentions, I've saw after years the B&W of many of many of >>> you >>>> are sharing with us, everyone has his own style and I don't know if I >> can >>>> explain my workflow as a certain rule ... , IMHO is a question of the >>>> personal preferences. Even so I can explain why I work. >>>>> >>>>> I normally work in manual mode and in digital I prefer a little under >>>> exposure than over exposure. Usually I prefer use old lenses, IMHO they >>>> give more medium tones and less crispy images to work. When I process >> the >>>> DNG I have certain "own" rules, I try to avoid or at least minimize the >>>> extreme tones of the Dynamic Range, Absolute Black (Zone 0) and >> absolute >>>> white (Zone X), usually I start marking the white and the black points, >>>> after I do a first arrangement using the extended Dynamic range that >>> offer >>>> Capture One (medium tones for shadow and lights), after this I work >> with >>>> the curve to obtain the contrast I want, finally I work on the >> classical >>>> controls of Exposure, Brilliance and Contrast an if it is necessary I >>>> correct the previous values I've do. I edit the image in Photoshop and >> I >>>> click in to the Automatic levels, generally I accept what PS does. If >> the >>>> image is too flat I try to improve it with Silver Efex Pro. >>>>> >>>>> IMHO Capture One is a great tool for work the B&W, it has different >> B&W >>>> presets, and I have also build mines. The same thing with Silver Efex >>> Pro, >>>> I've never use the standard presets, I've build some own presets, but >>>> rarely they work for a new picture, I have to modify different things. >>>>> >>>>> When I work I always take care of the histogram, and I try to cover >> all >>>> the range. Silver Efex Pro offer the histogram and the 10 zones, this >> is >>>> useful for me, I can better correct extreme Zones 0 and 10. >>>>> >>>>> I don't know if this can be interesting for you, I think is nothing >>> new, >>>> last Summer our friend Geoff was with me looking my workflow, I work by >>> my >>>> instinct and I think difficult made, as you say, a tutorial, this >> sounds >>>> for me too pretentious... >>>>> >>>>> I hope have answered your question ... >>>>> >>>>> Thank you very much! >>>>> Lluis >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> El 19/02/2014, a las 16:49, lrzeitlin at aol.com escribi?: >>>>>> >>>>>> Lluis, >>>>>> I am always impressed by the tonal quality you manage to achieve in >>>> your B&W pictures. Especially when viewed on the new high resolution >>> screen >>>> of my Macbook Pro. We may differ on matters of composition and subject >>>> selection but your B&W images are far superior to the bulk of those >> shown >>>> on the LUG. I mean no disrespect to other photographers but your >> pictures >>>> are in a class by themselves.? It can't all be the Leica Monocrom.? The >>>> results are just as good with every camera you use, even old film >>> cameras. >>>> The big question is how do you do it?? >>>>>> Could you describe your workflow from shutter click to posting on >> the >>>> internet as a tutorial for less adept photographers. I would like to be >>>> able to get your results in B&W images. >>>>>> Larry Z >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> -- >> Bob Adler >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information