Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/02/21

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Subject: [Leica] Lluis' B&W tonality
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 22:11:41 +1000
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Bob the very best way to absorb the instruction from Don Lluis is to walk
and shoot with him all day in a superb city environment (with intervals for
delicious Catalan food) then sit over a beer in front of the computer with
Lluis. You need to go to Barcelona!


Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman


On 21 February 2014 17:25, Bob Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you Lluis. An excellent tutorial that gives a starting point to us
> novices who wish to develop our own processes.
> You are very generous.
> Best,
> Bob
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Lluis Ripoll <
> lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you Susan, Gerry, Bob, Larry and others ... I really think I don't
> deserve such mentions, I've saw after years the B&W of many of many of you
> are sharing with us, everyone has his own style and I don't know if I can
> explain my workflow as a certain rule ... , IMHO is a question of the
> personal preferences. Even so I can explain why I work.
> >
> > I normally work in manual mode and in digital I prefer a little under
> exposure than over exposure. Usually I prefer use old lenses, IMHO they
> give more medium tones and less crispy images to work. When I process the
> DNG I have certain "own" rules, I try to avoid or at least minimize the
> extreme tones of the Dynamic Range, Absolute Black (Zone 0) and absolute
> white (Zone X), usually I start marking the white and the black points,
> after I do a first arrangement using the extended Dynamic range that offer
> Capture One (medium tones for shadow and lights), after this I work with
> the curve to obtain the contrast I want, finally I work on the classical
> controls of Exposure, Brilliance and Contrast an if it is necessary I
> correct the previous values I've do. I edit the image in Photoshop and I
> click in to the Automatic levels, generally I accept what PS does. If the
> image is too flat I try to improve it with Silver Efex Pro.
> >
> > IMHO Capture One is a great tool for work the B&W, it has different B&W
> presets, and I have also build mines. The same thing with Silver Efex Pro,
> I've never use the standard presets, I've build some own presets, but
> rarely they work for a new picture, I have to modify different things.
> >
> > When I work I always take care of the histogram, and I try to cover all
> the range. Silver Efex Pro offer the histogram and the 10 zones, this is
> useful for me, I can better correct extreme Zones 0 and 10.
> >
> > I don't know if this can be interesting for you, I think is nothing new,
> last Summer our friend Geoff was with me looking my workflow, I work by my
> instinct and I think difficult made, as you say, a tutorial, this sounds
> for me too pretentious...
> >
> > I hope have answered your question ...
> >
> > Thank you very much!
> > Lluis
> >
> >
> >> El 19/02/2014, a las 16:49, lrzeitlin at aol.com escribi?:
> >>
> >> Lluis,
> >> I am always impressed by the tonal quality you manage to achieve in
> your B&W pictures. Especially when viewed on the new high resolution screen
> of my Macbook Pro. We may differ on matters of composition and subject
> selection but your B&W images are far superior to the bulk of those shown
> on the LUG. I mean no disrespect to other photographers but your pictures
> are in a class by themselves.? It can't all be the Leica Monocrom.? The
> results are just as good with every camera you use, even old film cameras.
> The big question is how do you do it??
> >> Could you describe your workflow from shutter click to posting on the
> internet as a tutorial for less adept photographers. I would like to be
> able to get your results in B&W images.
> >> Larry Z
> >>
> >>
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