Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/05/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Geoff, I expected a retort from you. No problem - you believe what you must, and I will believe what I must. I have spent my working life understanding companies and corporate behaviour, so I am very clear on what is generally good and what is not so good for the end consumer, and I have learnt (by losing money by making biased investments) to be pretty clear headed about it, so there is, I think, a minimum of bias involved. Others can agree or not - I have no problems with that - I am only making a point as I see it. Cheers Jayanand On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>wrote: > Jayanand, Cloud based applications are becoming more prevalent for good or > worse. Not unique to Adobe though. Microsoft being the 800 lb gorilla of > course. Your two favourite companies I think ;-) > DNG of course is what we have from Leicas so I don't think it helps much > to rail against it on a nominally Leica list . The format makes perfect > sense for the small company. > There's no endless debate on Canon/Nikon openly publishing their > proprietary Raw data. Nikon at least do not. Nikon have issued joint > statements with Adobe in the past. You can use Adobe applications with > Nikon NEF files natively or you can convert them to DNG. Nikon requires you > to have their software to access the encrypted WB information. How is their > proprietary format not a monopoly and Adobe's documented open standard that > any company can implement for free a monopoly? > I shoot quite a bit with my D600 and had the D7000 before that. As is > obvious they do some things better than M's. Personally I have never > observed any practical differences comparing the original NEF's and DNG's > converted from them. I don't care at all about their encrypted WB > information either. I do prefer some of the advantages of the DNG's for my > workflow. That is only personal choice though. I never installed the free > version of the Nikon software at all and paying more for their full > featured version doesn't make sense to me when I already use LR anyway. I'm > sure that there are many people content with the Nikon offerings only. > cheers > Geoff > > On 07/05/2013, at 13:04, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Typical Adobe behaviour and pricing. The power of monopoly in full flow! > > They really are one of the few general market consumer software companies > > that can get away with this sort of predatory pricing and behaviour. I > > remember propagating the view during the endless debate on Canon/Nikon > not > > openly publishing their proprietary RAW data so that Adobe could design a > > better Camera RAW, that the real danger was Adobe, not the camera > > manufacturers, because they are a monopoly, and that is always the most > > dangerous type of entity for end users. Now that axiom is coming home to > > roost. I really do not understand why anybody would want to even more > > firmly get into their clutches by using DNG (unless unavoidable, i.e. > > Leica). > > Cheers > > Jayanand > > > > > > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:56 AM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> > wrote: > > > >> > >> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/06/adobe_kills_creative_suite_for_cloud/ > >> > >> That should save some money, shame that they do not realise that we do > not > >> all live in the USA or Europe and have high latency to their servers :-( > >> > >> john > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >