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Subject: [Leica] M9 & 64gb SD problem
From: jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 18:19:30 -0600
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Thanks, Sonny.  Perhaps it is my aging fingers that hate to deal with small 
items.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sonny Carter" <sonc.hegr at gmail.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] M9 & 64gb SD problem


> Jim,
>
> I cannot remember when I had a contact failure, and I ALWAYS use card
> readers.
>
> The biggest failure point in SD cards  seems to be the glue used  to hold
> the sandwich together.  I've had several come apart over the years.  Very
> weird.
>
> SonC
>
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Geoff,
>>
>> I recognize that there are legitimate reasons for removing the card from
>> the camera, to transfer firmware updates, etc.  What I can't justify is
>> constantly moving the card from the camera to a card reader, and back
>> again. To my eyes, the most delicate connections in the digital process 
>> are
>> those pin connections on the memory cards.  Once the card is functioning
>> properly in my camera, I feel it should stay there.
>>
>> I suppose that, for you and Tina and a few others, multiple cards may be
>> needed on a given day.  That is an entirely different case.
>>
>> I'm sorry to hear that Leica has given up the camera to computer
>> connection. But, I don't ever expect to purchase an M, anyway.
>>
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Hopkinson" 
>> <hopsternew at gmail.com
>> >
>>
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 4:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] M9 & 64gb SD problem
>>
>>
>>  Not quite a cult, Jim ;-). Just suggested simplest baseline to avoid
>>> possible errors/complications with some scenarios.
>>> There are skeins of threads in the dedicated forums asking for help with
>>> file transfers/formatting/usb connection to camera etc  ;-)
>>>
>>> In M digital cameras at least, formatting a card in-camera that has been
>>> used previously in another camera preserves/restores the folder 
>>> structure
>>> and file numbering sequence. Custom file naming/numbering can be 
>>> affected
>>> for example and the creation of second parent folder can mean that new
>>> files appear to be absent when in fact they are just not in the expected
>>> default location.
>>>
>>> One specialised scenario is the uploading of new firmware via card too
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ask me how I know that delete in camera really means delete and defies 
>>> the
>>> Sandisk provided recovery tools too ;-)
>>>
>>> Worth noting that Leica Camera has deleted the in-built port from the 
>>> soon
>>> to arrive M.
>>>
>>> *If you want to take more interesting pictures,
>>> stand in front of more interesting stuff* -- Joe McNally
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Geoff
>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7 February 2013 08:02, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I have never found the basis for this reformat cult.  It seems to 
>>> belong
>>>> to the same coffee house rumor that says you should never connect your
>>>> camera to a computer through a USB cable.  I always pull out the USB
>>>> cable,
>>>> download to a computer file of my choice, and allow the computer to
>>>> delete
>>>> the images from the camera card.  The card is never reformated after it
>>>> goes in the camera initially.  I have never had a card problem.
>>>>
>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Pearce" <billcpearce at 
>>>> cox.net>
>>>>
>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 3:45 PM
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] M9 & 64gb SD problem
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  But if you don't reformat, how do you clean it up after downloads?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Lew Schwartz Sent: Wednesday, 
>>>>> February
>>>>> 06, 2013 2:50 PM To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] M9 & 64gb 
>>>>> SD
>>>>> problem
>>>>> I'm not really a proponent of constantly formating. If a card really
>>>>> needs
>>>>> it, you should replace it altogether. Similarly for this format it in
>>>>> the
>>>>> device that uses it idea. Sounds like a cyber myth without any science
>>>>> behind it to me. The correct format is decided by the SD consortium.
>>>>> Every
>>>>> device using them has to conform, otherwise your PC/MAC/Linux machine
>>>>> wouldn't be able to do any i/o.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Lew Schwartz
>>>>> On Feb 6, 2013 12:29 PM, <grduprey at mchsi.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Sounds like the card has become corrupted.  Get a new one and ALWAYS
>>>>>
>>>>>> format in the camera, NEVER in the computer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Gene
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Lew Schwartz" <lew1716 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 7:13:58 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada 
>>>>>> Central
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] M9 & 64gb SD problem
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These are 64gb's. I wonder if anyone is using those of another mfgr
>>>>>> successfully.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Lew Schwartz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > No size limit with the latest firmware.  I use 16GB Transcend cards
>>>>>> > all
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> > time.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Tina
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:13 PM, John McMaster <john at 
>>>>>> > mcmaster.co.nz>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > SanDisk perchance? I stopped using them in my M9 after I had that
>>>>>> happen
>>>>>> > a
>>>>>> > > couple of times.... These are all 16GB cards though, I thought > 
>>>>>> > >  >
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> > a
>>>>>> > > size limit on the M9?
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > john
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > Tina Manley, ASMP
>>>>>> > www.tinamanley.com
>>>>>> >
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>
>
>
> -- 
> Regards,
>
> Sonny
> http://sonc.com/look/
> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>
> USA
>
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