Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/01/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I certainly agree. And I guess I was lucky with the copy I purchased. Scott On 2013-01-22, at 5:18 PM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at me.com> wrote: > The problem for me Scott is that when you are using a top of the line > brand like Nikon you should not count on luck to give you a good lens. > > Gerry > > Gerry Walden > +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or > +44 (0)797 287 7932 > www.gwpics.com > > On 22 Jan 2013, at 20:13, Scott Gregory <scottgregory at mac.com> wrote: > >> Have a look at the January photo in the 2013 Nikon calendar. Ed Masterson >> took it on a D3 with 24-120 Nikkor. An exquisite shot! I have the first >> version that everybody says is awful and you cannot paint them all with >> the same brush. I used it last night on my d700 and shots were very >> sharp. No issues at all. >> Scott >> >> On 2013-01-22, at 10:46 AM, Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Well, then, let me clarify. The lens I have is 15 months old and is the >>> AF-S NIKKOR 24-120mm f/4G ED VR with nano coating and mystical genies >>> in it that must be asleep most of the time. And it was sent back to >>> Nikon about 4 months ago for a look to see if they could make it >>> actually work. Came back saying it was up to specs, so I guess it is >>> the best they can make it. I paid $600 or so for my Leica 35/70 F/4 and >>> $1300 for this think Nikon calls a G lens. G does not stand for "Good". >>> >>> Aram >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Mark Rabiner >>> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 8:49 PM >>> To: Leica Users Group >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] (Now) Nikon 24-120 >>> >>> It just that lens lens has existed in as many configurations as there are >>> days in the week and it makes a big difference if people are specific as >>> to >>> which one they are referring to because they one they came out the >>> following year was the difference between day and night and the one which >>> came out a year after that ditto. >>> >>> The 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6 VR which came out in 2003 is a famous looser. Way >>> soft all over. >>> As to me and many people 2003 feels like the day before yesterday you >>> could >>> easily have this lens and think you were shooting with the current issue. >>> And you can see it sold as if its new now for $669.99 . Used from >>> $340.0. >>> And refurbished from $475.00 on Amazon. (cue Tarzan) >>> people think they are still made. Maybe they are. >>> And there were countless versions before this. >>> >>> The current offering is the AF-S NIKKOR 24-120mm f/4G ED VR lens. >>> Sometimes referred to as (the G lens) >>> A totally re designed optic from the ground up and guess what? Nikon got >>> it >>> more than right this time. >>> This lens came out 22nd September 2010 and has nano nano crystal >>> coating. >>> This version cost $1,299.95 according to this thing: >>> http://www.nikonusa.com/en/Nikon-Products/Product/Camera-Lenses/2193/AF-S-NI >>> KKOR-24-120mm-f%252F4G-ED-VR.html >>> Or >>> http://tinyurl.com/az7ev3x >>> >>> So when people say "my Nikon 24-120 was good/bad" its rather meaningless. >>> Its like saying "My meal in little Italy was good/bad" you have to say >>> which >>> restaurant and what time of the day it was. And what you ordered. >>> And what the wait persons name was. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/21/13 10:52 PM, "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Here are a few things I don't like about mine. >>>> >>>> It is not well made. There is a lot of play in the lens barrel, >>>> especially >>>> when zoomed out a bit. When it focuses, you can see the image jump >>>> around >>>> in the viewfinder. Just very sloppy. >>>> >>>> If you focus on something at a certain focal length, then zoom in or >>>> out, >>>> the focus shifts. It is not really what I would call a zoom, but rather >>>> some variable focus lens from the 70's. Makes it just about impossible >>>> to >>>> use for night photography. Nothing to focus on, so either prefocus in >>>> daylight at infinity, or use live view to focus on a bright star, but >>>> the >>>> every time you recompose by zooming, you need to refocus. >>>> >>>> The zoom creeps very easily, so makes the above even harder if you >>>> tried to >>>> prefocus at a specific focal length, as it can change so easily. >>>> >>>> At times I bet some very sharp photos, but most of the time I let it >>>> sit in >>>> the camera bag and use the Leica 35-70/4 unless I need autofocus or >>>> focal >>>> length greater than about 90mm, because I can easily crop the Leica to >>>> get a >>>> sharper photo than the Nikon at 120 >>>> >>>> And this lens is suppose to be gold banded and much better than the >>>> original >>>> 24-120. >>>> >>>> I sent mine back to Nikon to have it tightened up and it came back just >>>> about the same. >>>> >>>> Aram >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Howard Ritter >>>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 7:37 PM >>>> To: Leica Users Group >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] (Now) Nikon 24-120 >>>> >>>> Jayanand? >>>> >>>> May I ask what you didn't like about that new 24-120? >>>> Other than the size, weight, and being less sharp toward the corners at >>>> all >>>> focal lengths than the new (non-gold-banded) 24-85? >>>> >>>> ?howard >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 11:22 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at >>>> gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I generally check out all lenses for at least a couple of hours of use >>>>> before I buy - the only one I bought on impulse recently, without >>>>> testing, >>>>> the Nikon 24-120 f4 ended up being resold in a couple of months. There >>>>> is >>>>> a >>>>> lesson there...(-: >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Jayanand >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:02 AM, philippe.amard >>>>> <philippe.amard at sfr.fr>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The last two lenses I bought came from local street shops, >>>>>> Phalsbourg & >>>>>> Metz :-) >>>>>> And the last 2 cameras from the local FNAC. >>>>>> I find it so frustrating when you can't manipulate the gear prior to >>>>>> punching the PIN code >>>>>> >>>>>> Amiti?s >>>>>> Philippe >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 17 janv. 13 ? 17:58, Jean-Michel Mertz a ?crit : >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've read most of the posts concerning ebay and its potential >>>>>>> dangers. I >>>>>>> think I might have an idea. I have been using one single lens (the >>>>>>> collapsible elmar 50) for a number of weeks now (+ M8) and I have >>>>>>> come >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> the conclusion that this pair covers most of my needs. I do have >>>>>>> another >>>>>>> lens (sum 35 asph) but I seldom use it. I think this is probably >>>>>>> something >>>>>>> many other luggers experience, this successful match between a >>>>>>> photog, a >>>>>>> body and a lens which often results in wonderful pictures being made. >>>>>>> See >>>>>>> the use HCB made of his IIIg + 50mm. So, do we really need to have >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> many lenses and cameras since we all have our favourite gear? (I'm of >>>>>>> course not talking of professional photogs!)Just an idea to beat ebay >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> perhaps favour our local dealer - once every five years, for used and >>>>>>> less >>>>>>> expensive gear!Jean-Michel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See >>>>>>> http://leica-users.org/**mailman/listinfo/lug<http://leica-users.org/mailma >>>>>>> n/listinfo/lug>for >>>>>>> more information >>>>>> >>>>>> One sees clearly only with the heart. What is essential is invisible >>>>>> to >>>>>> the eye. 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