Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/01/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The problem for me Scott is that when you are using a top of the line brand like Nikon you should not count on luck to give you a good lens. Gerry Gerry Walden +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or +44 (0)797 287 7932 www.gwpics.com On 22 Jan 2013, at 20:13, Scott Gregory <scottgregory at mac.com> wrote: > Have a look at the January photo in the 2013 Nikon calendar. Ed Masterson > took it on a D3 with 24-120 Nikkor. An exquisite shot! I have the first > version that everybody says is awful and you cannot paint them all with > the same brush. I used it last night on my d700 and shots were very sharp. > No issues at all. > Scott > > On 2013-01-22, at 10:46 AM, Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Well, then, let me clarify. The lens I have is 15 months old and is the >> AF-S NIKKOR 24-120mm f/4G ED VR with nano coating and mystical genies in >> it that must be asleep most of the time. And it was sent back to Nikon >> about 4 months ago for a look to see if they could make it actually work. >> Came back saying it was up to specs, so I guess it is the best they can >> make it. I paid $600 or so for my Leica 35/70 F/4 and $1300 for this >> think Nikon calls a G lens. G does not stand for "Good". >> >> Aram >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Mark Rabiner >> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 8:49 PM >> To: Leica Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Leica] (Now) Nikon 24-120 >> >> It just that lens lens has existed in as many configurations as there are >> days in the week and it makes a big difference if people are specific as >> to >> which one they are referring to because they one they came out the >> following year was the difference between day and night and the one which >> came out a year after that ditto. >> >> The 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6 VR which came out in 2003 is a famous looser. Way >> soft all over. >> As to me and many people 2003 feels like the day before yesterday you >> could >> easily have this lens and think you were shooting with the current issue. >> And you can see it sold as if its new now for $669.99 . Used from $340.0. >> And refurbished from $475.00 on Amazon. (cue Tarzan) >> people think they are still made. Maybe they are. >> And there were countless versions before this. >> >> The current offering is the AF-S NIKKOR 24-120mm f/4G ED VR lens. >> Sometimes referred to as (the G lens) >> A totally re designed optic from the ground up and guess what? Nikon got >> it >> more than right this time. >> This lens came out 22nd September 2010 and has nano nano crystal coating. >> This version cost $1,299.95 according to this thing: >> http://www.nikonusa.com/en/Nikon-Products/Product/Camera-Lenses/2193/AF-S-NI >> KKOR-24-120mm-f%252F4G-ED-VR.html >> Or >> http://tinyurl.com/az7ev3x >> >> So when people say "my Nikon 24-120 was good/bad" its rather meaningless. >> Its like saying "My meal in little Italy was good/bad" you have to say >> which >> restaurant and what time of the day it was. And what you ordered. >> And what the wait persons name was. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 1/21/13 10:52 PM, "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Here are a few things I don't like about mine. >>> >>> It is not well made. There is a lot of play in the lens barrel, >>> especially >>> when zoomed out a bit. When it focuses, you can see the image jump >>> around >>> in the viewfinder. Just very sloppy. >>> >>> If you focus on something at a certain focal length, then zoom in or out, >>> the focus shifts. It is not really what I would call a zoom, but rather >>> some variable focus lens from the 70's. Makes it just about impossible >>> to >>> use for night photography. Nothing to focus on, so either prefocus in >>> daylight at infinity, or use live view to focus on a bright star, but the >>> every time you recompose by zooming, you need to refocus. >>> >>> The zoom creeps very easily, so makes the above even harder if you tried >>> to >>> prefocus at a specific focal length, as it can change so easily. >>> >>> At times I bet some very sharp photos, but most of the time I let it sit >>> in >>> the camera bag and use the Leica 35-70/4 unless I need autofocus or focal >>> length greater than about 90mm, because I can easily crop the Leica to >>> get a >>> sharper photo than the Nikon at 120 >>> >>> And this lens is suppose to be gold banded and much better than the >>> original >>> 24-120. >>> >>> I sent mine back to Nikon to have it tightened up and it came back just >>> about the same. >>> >>> Aram >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Howard Ritter >>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 7:37 PM >>> To: Leica Users Group >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] (Now) Nikon 24-120 >>> >>> Jayanand? >>> >>> May I ask what you didn't like about that new 24-120? >>> Other than the size, weight, and being less sharp toward the corners at >>> all >>> focal lengths than the new (non-gold-banded) 24-85? >>> >>> ?howard >>> >>> >>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 11:22 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I generally check out all lenses for at least a couple of hours of use >>>> before I buy - the only one I bought on impulse recently, without >>>> testing, >>>> the Nikon 24-120 f4 ended up being resold in a couple of months. There >>>> is >>>> a >>>> lesson there...(-: >>>> Cheers >>>> Jayanand >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:02 AM, philippe.amard >>>> <philippe.amard at sfr.fr>wrote: >>>> >>>>> The last two lenses I bought came from local street shops, Phalsbourg >>>>> & >>>>> Metz :-) >>>>> And the last 2 cameras from the local FNAC. >>>>> I find it so frustrating when you can't manipulate the gear prior to >>>>> punching the PIN code >>>>> >>>>> Amiti?s >>>>> Philippe >>>>> >>>>> Le 17 janv. 13 ? 17:58, Jean-Michel Mertz a ?crit : >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I've read most of the posts concerning ebay and its potential >>>>>> dangers. I >>>>>> think I might have an idea. I have been using one single lens (the >>>>>> collapsible elmar 50) for a number of weeks now (+ M8) and I have >>>>>> come >>>>>> to >>>>>> the conclusion that this pair covers most of my needs. I do have >>>>>> another >>>>>> lens (sum 35 asph) but I seldom use it. I think this is probably >>>>>> something >>>>>> many other luggers experience, this successful match between a >>>>>> photog, a >>>>>> body and a lens which often results in wonderful pictures being made. >>>>>> See >>>>>> the use HCB made of his IIIg + 50mm. So, do we really need to have >>>>>> that >>>>>> many lenses and cameras since we all have our favourite gear? (I'm of >>>>>> course not talking of professional photogs!)Just an idea to beat ebay >>>>>> and >>>>>> perhaps favour our local dealer - once every five years, for used and >>>>>> less >>>>>> expensive gear!Jean-Michel >>>>>> >>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See >>>>>> http://leica-users.org/**mailman/listinfo/lug<http://leica-users.org/mailma >>>>>> n/listinfo/lug>for >>>>>> more information >>>>> >>>>> One sees clearly only with the heart. What is essential is invisible to >>>>> the eye. Antoine de Saint Exup?ry in Le Petit Prince. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See >>>>> http://leica-users.org/**mailman/listinfo/lug<http://leica-users.org/mailman >>>>> /listinfo/lug>for >>>>> more information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark William Rabiner >> Photography >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information