Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/11/16
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Ted, Thanks so much for the insight into the biz and your experiences in it. I value both. I photographed mostly in black and white because I could afford it, could process the film myself and make the prints myself in a rental darkroom. I don't remember thinking that I'd have preferred color. I love your comment about "real photographers" and "souls vs. clothes." I plan to get some mileage out of those observations. On the other hand, I'm not ready to make a pronouncement on which is superior, B&W or color. When I think of my favorite images, mine and others, most of them are in black and white. On the other hand, how many times have people come out of a museum thinking, "Well, those were nice paintings, but they'd have been better in black and white"? With Photoshop, we're finally, perhaps, approaching the control the painter has over the precise color of our images. I had the chance yesterday to photograph my daughter in her gymnastics class using my Leicas, M3 and M6. They were both loaded with color. But I wasn't thinking of the color, just the timing and composition. (By the way, I noticed a huge difference in the shutter release between the M6 and M3 that I don't recall noticing before. Maybe I've noticed it and just forgotten. The M3's release is much more positive and the shutter goes off with very little shutter-release travel; whereas the M6 release felt mushy and had to be depressed much further for the shutter to release. I missed several shots because I'd not pushed the release far enough). I'll see how I did when the film is processed and proofed. It certainly was fun looking directly at the subject instead of at the little color TV inside the camera. As for in-camera metering, I love it, both manual and full auto. From my earliest days in photography I wanted a camera that would do all the grunt work for me, leaving me free to concentrate on timing and composition, with the option, of course, of reverting to manual whenever I wanted. Modern cameras are just about there, and may arrive when AI really hits its stride -- a little hand will pop out and slap the photographer in the face and say, "That is NOT a good photograph." Interesting thought. As Kertesz said, "The best ones get away." I've found that no matter what camera I'm using, for some shots, the one I don't have with me would have been better. With the M3, I have to take a light reading and transfer the settings to the camera. With the M6, I still have to balance the little triangles. Automatic film or digital cameras, both point-and-shoot and pro-level SLRs, have to be turned on -- a concept not much thought of back in the '50s -- and, even on the program setting, the desired ISO has to be selected. Murphy's law applies in photography as far as I can tell. I've got both hits and misses because of the camera I was using. Best regards, Jon -----Original Message----- From: tedgrant at shaw.ca Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 10:58 PM To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Monochrom in DC today -- NOT DC? jon.streeter OFFERED: Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Monochrom in DC today NOT DC? > Fascinating observation about not thinking you were shooting in black and > white, just shooting.<<< Hi Jon, When I started playing in photography 1950, colour was an expense beyond my economic reach. So I never bothered with it. Besides I learned to soup B&W film and eventually got around to making my own B&W prints using my wife's "tin baking trays" :-( Which didn't make her a happy camper because the trays all went black.... nothing like Acetic acid and tin! I eventually had to buy her a new complete set of baking trays and a set of plastic photo trays so I may live another day! ;-) But right at the beginning the most important part of being a success ( whatever that was 63 years ago?) Was the content of a successful captured moment! No different than today! Be that stock cars crashing & flipping during a race. A major fire with engines and police and whatever was happening............ It was the content with B&W film! Yep all 36 frames! Roll after roll! By the hundreds! If we went on a little holiday and the weather, location was pretty? I might spring for a roll of Kodachrome? But never had a projector to show. :-( So that took care of shooting colour! :-) During my many years of shooting documentaries for the National Film Board of Canada it was 100% B&W regardless of subject. From under the earth mining, birthing, cattle ranchers to deep sea fishing vessels' off either coast of Canada. Or me to the North Pole. You name it and I've probably shot it in B&W. Most of the 100,000 collection images in The National Art Gallery of Canada in Ottawa are B&W. Every frame with nary a thought about colour. My personal National Archives of Canada collection of 280,000 images are a mixture of B&W, some colour shot for different clients. It's the largest photo collection by a single photographer in the History of Canada. Lot's of Happy Snapping to be sure! :-) Damn you just have to love it! :-) Like I've said for years! "Real Photographers Shoot B&W! Eat Sushi and Drink Single Malt Scotch!" :-) AND: "When you photograph People in Colour. You Photograph their Clothes. But when you photograph people in B&W . You Photograph their Souls!" Shooting books on the medical profession started in June 1980 in B&W. Then along came digital some years later and I started shooting digi without a thought about shooting in colour, then converting to B&W! The book "Women in Medicine . A Celebration of their Work." I shot and souped 500 rolls of Tri-X with not a thought of colour during the months of shooting in the USA and Canada. Producing one of my best ever books! And all shot with Leica cameras, M7's & R8's. Sandy Carter was my co-shooter on this book and you can't tell her photos from mine even when we were shooting in different hospitals and cities! You might be surprised to learn every frame of my 500 rolls were shot set on automatic "A". And not one frame lost to anything........ but ME shooting a bad angle or moment! :-( Exposures all perfect! Leica's can be absolutely amazing tools of the trade when one doesn't think techie stuff and just shoots magical moments of life! B&W or colour! cheers, Dr. ted _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information