Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/11/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I've read that about HCB's wildly off exposures, and that he used a non-Leitz 50 because it was an f/1.5, faster than the Leitz 50. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> Subject: [Leica] PESO: sharpness is a bourgeois concept Date: Tue, Nov 6, 2012 10:31 pm I do think HCB shot with the Zeiss 50 instead of the Leica 50 because all his friends told him it was sharper and it was. And a better deal otherwise. He may have not been throwing away shots becuae they were not all that sharp but he was not throwing away shots becuae they were not exposed all that well either as he was not using a meter. He had a full time pro printer figuring out how to make viable images out of them. Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 01:23:23 -0500 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] PESO: sharpness is a bourgeois concept > > I don't know about sharpness being a bourgeois concept. > I do think not thinking that sharpness is an important issue means you 've > got your head up your ass. > In purely a photographic context of course. > > I posted a shot the other day which is very much not sharp. > But its rare for me. > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/fallrabs/071104_201619.jpg.html > Or > http://tinyurl.com/bhyrvwm > > Mark William Rabiner > Photography > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > >> From: Ken Iisaka <ken at iisaka.com> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:40:02 -0800 >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] PESO: sharpness is a bourgeois concept >> >> I am with Frank, personally. >> >> After a shoot, I go through them on Lightroom, and if it's not sharp, >> relevant, or otherwise bothersome, they don't get a single star. If they >> are at least interesting, they get a star. Every iteration, the duds are >> weeded out, and only a very few get 5 stars. >> >> Yet, I find this image quite compelling. The blurriness of the subjects is >> primarily due to the slow shutter, not from inaccurate focus or camera >> shake. In addition, the rain between the subjects and the camera create >> additional blurriness. >> >> Nicely done. >> >> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at >> verizon.net>wrote: >> >>> A Different point of view...... >>> >>> I like Nathan's image. It has character, mystique, etc. >>> >>> In my world, and YMMV, if it is not sharp, it gets tossed. First pass. >>> I >>> don't care what the subject, what the feeling, etc. Not sharp = Out. >>> >>> I did some IR pictures with my M8 a while back... that look of softness, >>> foggy softness, bothered me a lot. I did keep the images, but they >>> bother >>> me because they are not tack sharp. >>> >>> I know in this Group, sharpness is not always esteemed as being the #1 >>> criteria, and so be it. Your photos are yours. Mine are mine. We agree >>> to >>> have differing >>> criteria of acceptance. >>> >>> Yes, if the shutter button is not pressed, the image is nonexistent. >>> But sometimes, existent images should not .... exist. >>> >>> My opinion... and nothing to do with Nathan's shot.... >>> >>> Frank Filippone >>> Red735i at verizon.net >>> >>> >>> >>> The lesson? Maybe none, but I think it is something along the lines of >>> "just >>> take the damn picture"! >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Ken Iisaka >> first name at last name dot org or com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information