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Subject: [Leica] Marty, shutter lag in digital M
From: robertmeier at usjet.net (Robert Meier)
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 15:59:38 -0600 (CST)
References: <20121106131253.TZSP6475.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo110> <A1B7AFFF7289416AA711C9B6EBCD466D@syneticfeba505>

SLR's that have to autofocus before the shutter goes are not faster than an 
M Leica.


On Nov 6, 2012, at 2:43 PM, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Marty Deveney OFFERED:
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marty Deveney" <benedenia at gmail.com>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 7:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Marty, shutter lag in digital M
> 
>>> Now that the digital M
>>> cameras have long shutter-lag times even when compared to DSLRs, suddenly
>>> we're hearing that shutter lag doesn't matter, that nobody notices it.
>>> Really?  Nobody?  For capturing fleeting expressions in a portrait 
>>> session, nobody has noticed it?<<<<<<<<<<<
> 
> Marty Mon ami,
> Absolute truth at this moment of reading your posts on Leica lag! And me 
> writing this.
> 
> The "lag as you describe" in my 50 plus years of using Leica range 
> finders/SLR's quite often several at the same time hanging off my body has 
> never ever entered one iota of a mille-second of my thoughts, concerns, 
> nor 
> that it was even happening."  To prove my point good Sir, please look at 
> my 
> webpage TEDGRANTPHOTO.COM and look at a few mille-second photos of 
> "ACTIONS!" That if you even thought about shooting the moment.... "YOU 
> WOULD 
> MISS IT!"
> 
> You see I always figure, as with many other techie things I read on the 
> LUG. 
> If you don't know anything about it?  ..........  YOU DON'T HAVE THEM 
> HAPPEN!  WHY?
> 
> Well yer far too busy shooting the action without wasting time slowing 
> down 
> your own reflexes thinking about them, so this stuff just doesn't happen! 
> :-)
> 
> Well OK I know I'm being a tad facetious. But, "What you don't know wont 
> hurt you!" 
> 
> "SHOOT IT WITHOUT THINKING!"  
> 
> The content of the moment is the most important always! And if you are 
> twittering your brain about some "lag thing?"  YOU WILL MISS THE CONTENT 
> MOMENT! May have something to do with my concept!"   "DON'T THINK! SHOOT 
> IT!"
> 
> cheers,
> Dr. ted
> 
> 
>> 
>> The M8, M9 and Monochrom lag time is about 1/13s.  To me it's the most
>> substantial problem with all these cameras.  It's been discussed here
>> widely before:
>> http://leica-users.org/v43/msg02993.html
>> http://leica-users.org/v44/msg03170.html
>> 
>> Leica has stated that the new M (typ 240) has new architecture that
>> makes the camera faster and the shutter feel smoother.  The dummy
>> cameras that have been doing the rounds at the trade fairs seem to
>> display at least the latter, while no-one has measured the former.
>> 
>> Marty
>> 
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