[Leica] Marty, shutter lag in digital M

[grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey at mchsi.com)]

Unless you are doing precision timed photographs for scientific purposes 
this is all a waste of time discussing.  I cannot tell the difference in 
shutter lag from my M8, R8DMR, or Nikon D4.  I have not missed a action 
photo from any of them due to shutter lag, my reaction time is the major 
culprit. ;)

Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Deveney" <benedenia at gmail.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 11:54:36 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Leica] Marty, shutter lag in digital M

I wish they were faster, but they still work pretty well, including
for portraits:

http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/freakscene/MM/S-jr.jpg.html
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/freakscene/MM/Veronica+2-9-12-web.jpg.html
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/freakscene/MM/Niamh+2-9-12-web.jpg.html
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/freakscene/75+Summilux/fionn1.jpg.html

I prefer a rangefinder with long lag to an SLR with short lag.  The
best SLRs are now faster than all film Leicas apart from the M7, to
which they are about equivalent.

Marty



On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 3:53 PM, jon.streeter <jon.streeter at cox.net> wrote:
> Thank you, Marty.  This is exACTly the kind of info I was looking for.  A 
> digital M in theory would be a dream camera, allowing one to shoot to 
> one's heart's in a wide range of ISOs and in black and white and color.  
> But all these advantages are worthless if the camera has to think it over 
> before taking the picture.  Unforgivable in a Leica.  I'll hang on to my 
> relics and delight in the time I spend with them.  I'd post a portrait if 
> I could figure out how.
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Marty Deveney" <benedenia at gmail.com>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: [Leica] Kate Kirkwood and Leica Liker
> Date: Mon, Nov 5, 2012 7:44 pm
>
>
>> Now that the digital M
>> cameras have long shutter-lag times even when compared to DSLRs, suddenly
>> we're hearing that shutter lag doesn't matter, that nobody notices it.
>> Really?  Nobody?  For capturing fleeting expressions in a portrait 
>> session,
>> nobody has noticed it?
>
> The M8, M9 and Monochrom lag time is about 1/13s.  To me it's the most
> substantial problem with all these cameras.  It's been discussed here
> widely before:
> http://leica-users.org/v43/msg02993.html
> http://leica-users.org/v44/msg03170.html
>
> Leica has stated that the new M (typ 240) has new architecture that
> makes the camera faster and the shutter feel smoother.  The dummy
> cameras that have been doing the rounds at the trade fairs seem to
> display at least the latter, while no-one has measured the former.
>
> Marty
>
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