Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/11/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]There are nikon non 2.8's which I prefer. f4's and f4.5's. I've never cared for buying or owning ANY 2.8 zooms for my nikon work I somehow survived. The slower glass is supposedly non professional much of it the build is quite less but so is the weight. But some of the slower zoom nikon glass the 80-200's or 70-210's are built pretty well and can be knocked round quite a bit I speak from experience. And most of them have optics which are not less than the 2.8s. Often they are better. The latest news this week is a new lens out of Nikon their newest lens which is a constant f4 70-200 VR ED http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/10/24/Nikon-70-200mm-f4-vr-with-claimed-5- stop-image-stabilization Or http://tinyurl.com/96umlch Turns out Canon had an f4 which many top photographers picked as a lighter weight more compact non embarrassing option and its optics were also thought to maybe be better. Nikon competed with that and its new last week's f4 has advanced anti vibration able to give you many stops hand held over what was avaible before and another stop over the previous anti vibration for the nikon shoot tele zoom. So you don't have to shoot at a 200th of a second at 200mm you can shoot at a 30th or god knows what. It should go without saying that this is no a minor deal. This is a paradigm shift. You can now shoot teles indoors not just wides. 20 optical elements in 14 groups! Total insanity. If there is a lens in the nikon list which has had more variations on it than the 80-200 2.8 or f4 than I don't know that it or they are. My book has twenty pages on them the gray Peter Braczko book on Nikon historic glass. Another lens to consider when times are not so tight is the legendary AF Micro Nikkor D 70-180 f4.5-5.6 ED. Its a lens like this that makes one not so upset one is not shooting Leica. Its a lens I'm sure I'll be shooting with then I die and go to heaven. And hey we can shoot both! By the way one of the lenes I've gotten back from Portland just this season is the ultra light weight AF zoom Nikkor D 80-200 f4.5-5.6 It weights 11.6 oz less than many non fast tele primes. Three or four of them make a modern VR 2.8. But is plastic for sure. Its optics as you don't bang it going through a door are amazingly good. I shot this with it http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/fridayflowers/120602_182751.jpg.h tml Or http://tinyurl.com/9cxccny 6/2/12, 6:27:51 PM, flowers on porch upper west side ny, NIKON D700 80.0-200.0 mm f/4.5-5.6 @ 1/320 s at f/9.0 @ iso 400 @ 105.0 mm Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > From: Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 22:42:54 -0700 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Which Leica R tele-zoom? > > All things are relative.... > > Expensive = $5K > Economical = $1.6K > > Isn't there some Nikon lenses in the range at the same or lesser price > points? And they would offer automatic aperture operation as well.... > > And if you have an AF camera, that too..... > > It is nice to have Leica optics, but hardly a requirement.... > > Frank Filippone, repenting after his blasphemous comments...... > Red735i at verizon.net > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of > Vick > Ko > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 8:47 PM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] Which Leica R tele-zoom? > > The best zooms in the R line in that range are the 70-180 f2.8 Vario APO > Elmarit and 80-200 f4 Vario-Elmar lenses. > > The 70-180 is expensive but stellar > > The 80-200 is economical and stellar. > > Vick > > > On 11/3/2012 10:54 PM, Phil Forrest wrote: >> I see there are two Leica R versions of the tele-zoom in the 70-200 >> range. One is a 70-210 f/4 the other is 75-200 f/4.5. What is the >> difference between the two besides the obvious technical ones? Are >> they good performers? I notice that these are quite inexpensive these > days. >> >> Finally, would one of these perform better than the Nikkor 80-200 >> f/2.8 AFD? >> >> My thought is for use on a D2X. The Nikon lens offers outstanding >> performance and full metering function in all modes with the D2x. It's >> a stop faster as well. >> >> The Leica lens is a fully manual lens (I love manual focus, by the way >> so that's not a deterrent) and might have better optics but would >> limit me to stop down metering. >> >> I'm curious about your thoughts. >> Thanks all! >> >> Phil Forrest >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information