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Subject: [Leica] THE 617 tests, something is very wrong here
From: robertmeier at usjet.net (Robert Meier)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:38:03 -0500 (CDT)
References: <CCA5E960.24FE9%mark@rabinergroup.com>

The Halloween version of In the American West!


On Oct 18, 2012, at 4:14 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:

> By the way you have a loupe and a darkcloth?
> 
> Mark William Rabiner
> 
> 
>> From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:28:07 -0400
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] THE 617 tests, something is very wrong here
>> 
>> The old definition of a photo assistant is something who knows how to 
>> load a
>> Hasselblad back.
>> The new one is one who can teach the photographer they work for how to do 
>> it
>> right.
>> Much of this photography thing is self evident and you just figure it out.
>> But much of it its really good to have a face to face  real world peer 
>> group
>> to show you stuff. A workshop; a class.
>> 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photography
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:27:58 -0700
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] THE 617 tests, something is very wrong here
>>> 
>>> Ha ha, I never did that one, but on the Hassy, I did load the film 
>>> backward
>>> once or twice - so no film images!
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at 
>>> rabinergroup.com>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I loaded my Hasselblad backs wrong the first few years I used them. I
>>>> didn't
>>>> put them under the tab but let the film just rest over the tab. So I'd 
>>>> got
>>>> the left edge soft and felt like I had to shoot everything way stopped
>>>> down.
>>>> I finally learned my lesson from an assistant. Should have gotten the 
>>>> Ernst
>>>> Wildi book straight on.
>>>> 
>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>> Photography
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 04:30:49 -0700
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Subject: [Leica] THE 617 tests, something is very wrong here
>>>>> 
>>>>> First the caveat, these are "high" resolution scan from the Epson 3200,
>>>> not
>>>>> my usual Nikon LS-9000, but trust me on this, the results don't look 
>>>>> that
>>>>> different. I'm having trouble getting the LS-9000 to scan the two 
>>>>> halves
>>>>> correctly sfor stitching so Epson it is.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The camera was set as level and neutral as I could, and then I used 
>>>>> some
>>>>> front rise to take less of the road, and more of the subjects.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Second, something terribly wrong with my techniques, as the left edges
>>>> from
>>>>> all 3 lens are markedly softer than the right. I have made sure that 
>>>>> the
>>>>> negs are as flat as possible on the scanner holder, and this is visible
>>>> on
>>>>> the negs also. This probably mean I did something wrong somewhere. I
>>>>> noticed that the SH 617 has front swing and the lensboard was ever so
>>>>> slightly might not have been parallel (but the amount is very minor), 
>>>>> and
>>>>> it may very well be that the film plate was not set parallel enough. So
>>>>> this is probably a user error.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Third, even at the best sharpest areas (on the right), things don't 
>>>>> "pop
>>>>> out sharp," unlike for example, the negs from the XPan.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am having a dreadful feeling that someone can make this setup sing, 
>>>>> but
>>>>> that someone may just not be me :-(
>>>>> 
>>>>> I applied 20% sharpening with LR4.2, with the radius and detail set up
>>>>> their defau
>>>>> 150mm Fuji @F32
>>>>> http://richardmanphoto.com/PICS/20121018-Scanned-8.jpg
>>>>> 
>>>>> 210mm Symmar-S @F32
>>>>> http://richardmanphoto.com/PICS/20121018-Scanned-9.jpg
>>>>> 
>>>>> 90mm Fuji SWD @F32
>>>>> http://richardmanphoto.com/PICS/20121018-Scanned-10.jpg
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>> 
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