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Subject: [Leica] THE 617 tests, something is very wrong here
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 17:14:08 -0400

By the way you have a loupe and a darkcloth?

Mark William Rabiner


> From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:28:07 -0400
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] THE 617 tests, something is very wrong here
> 
> The old definition of a photo assistant is something who knows how to load 
> a
> Hasselblad back.
> The new one is one who can teach the photographer they work for how to do 
> it
> right.
> Much of this photography thing is self evident and you just figure it out.
> But much of it its really good to have a face to face  real world peer 
> group
> to show you stuff. A workshop; a class.
> 
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photography
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> 
> 
>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:27:58 -0700
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] THE 617 tests, something is very wrong here
>> 
>> Ha ha, I never did that one, but on the Hassy, I did load the film 
>> backward
>> once or twice - so no film images!
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at 
>> rabinergroup.com>wrote:
>> 
>>> I loaded my Hasselblad backs wrong the first few years I used them. I
>>> didn't
>>> put them under the tab but let the film just rest over the tab. So I'd 
>>> got
>>> the left edge soft and felt like I had to shoot everything way stopped
>>> down.
>>> I finally learned my lesson from an assistant. Should have gotten the 
>>> Ernst
>>> Wildi book straight on.
>>> 
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>> Photography
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 04:30:49 -0700
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: [Leica] THE 617 tests, something is very wrong here
>>>> 
>>>> First the caveat, these are "high" resolution scan from the Epson 3200,
>>> not
>>>> my usual Nikon LS-9000, but trust me on this, the results don't look 
>>>> that
>>>> different. I'm having trouble getting the LS-9000 to scan the two halves
>>>> correctly sfor stitching so Epson it is.
>>>> 
>>>> The camera was set as level and neutral as I could, and then I used some
>>>> front rise to take less of the road, and more of the subjects.
>>>> 
>>>> Second, something terribly wrong with my techniques, as the left edges
>>> from
>>>> all 3 lens are markedly softer than the right. I have made sure that the
>>>> negs are as flat as possible on the scanner holder, and this is visible
>>> on
>>>> the negs also. This probably mean I did something wrong somewhere. I
>>>> noticed that the SH 617 has front swing and the lensboard was ever so
>>>> slightly might not have been parallel (but the amount is very minor), 
>>>> and
>>>> it may very well be that the film plate was not set parallel enough. So
>>>> this is probably a user error.
>>>> 
>>>> Third, even at the best sharpest areas (on the right), things don't "pop
>>>> out sharp," unlike for example, the negs from the XPan.
>>>> 
>>>> I am having a dreadful feeling that someone can make this setup sing, 
>>>> but
>>>> that someone may just not be me :-(
>>>> 
>>>> I applied 20% sharpening with LR4.2, with the radius and detail set up
>>>> their defau
>>>> 150mm Fuji @F32
>>>> http://richardmanphoto.com/PICS/20121018-Scanned-8.jpg
>>>> 
>>>> 210mm Symmar-S @F32
>>>> http://richardmanphoto.com/PICS/20121018-Scanned-9.jpg
>>>> 
>>>> 90mm Fuji SWD @F32
>>>> http://richardmanphoto.com/PICS/20121018-Scanned-10.jpg
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>> 
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