Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/10/02

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Subject: [Leica] Another MM portrait
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 07:59:04 -0400

I would think another person shooting with the monochrome would get a whole
different tonality from it.

If my camera has its own look or tonality I don't have the eye to see it.
And I cant tell from looking at one of my shots which of my 5 digital
cameras I've sued extensively shot it.  Each shot is its own challenge there
is a huge amount of information to choose from. What the camera would want I
don't know maybe if I shot jpegs. Though the settings on those are also
numerous.  But don't I certainly shoot raw. Any shot could have gone a
million different ways.

Mark William Rabiner
Photography
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


> From: Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 21:23:13 +0930
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Another MM portrait
> 
> Then it shouldn't be any fun; this was very, no, extremely easy to
> process.  My wet development and printing process was also very easy.
> 
> The camera has its own tonality, fortunately it is one that I like (a lot).
> 
> Marty
> 
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
> wrote:
>> If it was easy it would be no fun.
>> 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photography
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 10:18:37 +0930
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Another MM portrait
>>> 
>>> I don't doubt that both the software and I will improve, but the
>>> camera has its own tonality, and fighting it makes no sense to me.
>>> 
>>> Marty
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Well you can make it look like whatever you want it to look like with or
>>>> without additional software and a month or a year later tweak it to you
>>>> satisfaction. Also a year from now you'll be better at it.  Its a 
>>>> goldmine
>>>> for our work the new cameras just out now from Leica. Goodness knows 
>>>> we've
>>>> waited long enough.
>>>> 
>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>> Photography
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:17:19 +0930
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Another MM portrait
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Mark, I'm contemplating those borders.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have been adjusting most of my MM shots to look like Agfa film in
>>>>> Rodinal or Beutlers on Brovira or Portrig (but without the nasty
>>>>> greeny-browns I always fought against with that paper).  There is a
>>>>> sentimental side of me that would prefer them to look like Plus-X or
>>>>> medium format Tri-X in D75 1+1 on Elite or the original Galerie, but
>>>>> other than in exceptional light the files are less amenable to that
>>>>> look, and can start to appear to have a strange, unnatural tonality if
>>>>> forced.  This look is lovely, and the camera does it easily, so I'm
>>>>> happy with it.  Like attempting to use HC110 and Tri-X Pro, if
>>>>> something doesn't work, I don't care what people (or their heroes)
>>>>> tell me, I just don't do it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Plenty more soon.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Later,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marty
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Tonality is amazingly impressive Looks like Agfapan 25 in Beutlers
>>>>>> printed
>>>>>> on Agfa Brovira fiber with Dektol 1:1 I love everything about it
>>>>>> including
>>>>>> the landscape mode take on the composition, excellent use of selective
>>>>>> focus
>>>>>> and most of all attitude of the subject...  except the borders which 
>>>>>> look
>>>>>> fakey. (cartoonish) but even if done well I'd not like.  I'd take 
>>>>>> those
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> for sure.
>>>>>> Congrats on you MM it looks like you are putting it to great use.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>>>> Photography
>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca>
>>>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:12:05 -0700
>>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Another MM portrait
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Marty Deveney SHOWED:
>>>>>>> Subject: [Leica] Another MM portrait
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My friend S has a beautiful daughter, S jr, who is 4 and is now a 
>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>> cooperative model.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/freakscene/MM/S-jr.jpg.html  75
>>>>>>>> Summilux,
>>>>>>>> MM.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Marty,
>>>>>>> Very nice! But why not shoot her vertically?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>> Dr. ted  :-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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