[Leica] New M/ BOKEH?????

[tedgrant at shaw.ca (tedgrant at shaw.ca)]

May I put this into a test of shooting a real documentary for one of my
medical books.Those of you who do not have the pleasure of a copy of any of
the three might not have one word to say.

Here's how I work.

I'm in scrubs, 3 M cameras around my neck, a couple of motor drive SLR 's
hanging off shoulders with different lenses. And away I go with not one iota
of a thought other than making sure everything is set for proper exposure!

Now it is my eye that is canning the scene watching - looking for the
twinkle in  an eye just over the mask, the helter skelter of hands holding
instruments, the glint in an eye and doing all this without any techie
thoughts or concerns about bokeh or many other things that always seem to
put the fear of God into others their picture taking.

Regardless of all the banter about many things.... Bokeh for example, never
ever enters my mind nor nary an incline of thought as I'm concentrating on
the many subjects.

Just look through any of the book picture pages and point out to me where
the bokeh is a distracting spoiling element in the intensity of the photo
moment. For the life of me I cannot imagine it ever entering thought process
as a new heart valve is being inserted into the heart of the patient.

Please by my guest and tell me the plate number of the photo page and point
out the bokeh spoiled photo.... thank you.

cheers,
Dr. ted :-)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "FRANK DERNIE" <frank.dernie at btinternet.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] New M/ BOKEH?????


> The thing is, Mark, you are a night owl. You go out taking pictures in low
> light, and prefer to stop down a bit for DoF.
> Not everybody does this.
> I am in bed early and up at dawn. I mainly take pictures in good light,
> and if it is less good I use my lenses wide open.
> I don't care all that much about high iso performance, though I know you
> do. Many are like me, I imagine, though we don't bang on about it thrice
> daily.
> If you shoot frequently wide open it is likely that between 50% and 95% of
> the frame is OOF so, for people who do this boke is indeed important for
> the overall look of the print, though of course it is the in-focus bit
> that is important (usually).
> IME the nature of the background makes more difference to the boke than
> the lens itself. Sun through a leafy bush or tree being the most tricky
> IME. I do not keep a lens if I don't like the boke, personally, so it is
> not an issue for me.
> All my Leica lenses have good or excellent boke. Most of my Canon lenses
> do too. A few Nikon lenses have been disappointing and several of the
> Voigtlander rangefinder lenses too. The 50mm f1.5 was very disappointing
> in this regard.
> My habits are very different from yours, so my requirements are also very
> different.
> cheers,
> Frank Dernie
>
>
>
>
>>________________________________
>> From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>>To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>Sent: Saturday, 22 September 2012, 8:05
>>Subject: Re: [Leica] New M/ BOKEH?????
>>
>>In agreement where Ted is coming from the idea of good or bad bokeh being
>>a
>>deal breaker and really the main focus of why to buy one lens over another
>>is so obsurd it makes my teeth hurt. Far more important would seem to be
>>to
>>focus ones attention on what's in focus.
>>Vibration reduction is a huge thing. Huge.
>>A paradigm shifter big time.
>>If its conceivably possible that it would effect the out of focus areas of
>>the image my big thought on the issue is: who the hell cares? You're hand
>>holding a 30omm lens at a 50th of a second I say that's a reason to
>>celebrate. And a reason to go out and make images like you never could
>>before. Or stay in and do it in your living room... turn the lights down
>>low. Not have to use a wide. Do a portrait session with a 90mm and
>>candlelight.
>>
>>Mark William Rabiner
>>Photography
>>
>>
>>
>
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