[Leica] New M/ BOKEH?????

[frank.dernie at btinternet.com (FRANK DERNIE)]

The thing is, Mark, you are a night owl. You go out taking pictures in low 
light, and prefer to stop down a bit for DoF.
Not everybody does this.
I am in bed early and up at dawn. I mainly take pictures in good light, and 
if it is less good I use my lenses wide open.
I don't care all that much about high iso performance, though I know you do. 
Many are like me, I imagine, though we don't bang on about it thrice daily.
If you shoot frequently wide open it is likely that between 50% and 95% of 
the frame is OOF so, for people who do this boke is indeed important for the 
overall look of the print, though of course it is the in-focus bit that is 
important (usually).
IME the nature of the background makes more difference to the boke than the 
lens itself. Sun through a leafy bush or tree being the most tricky IME. I 
do not keep a lens if I don't like the boke, personally, so it is not an 
issue for me.
All my Leica lenses have good or excellent boke. Most of my Canon lenses do 
too. A few Nikon lenses have been disappointing and several of the 
Voigtlander rangefinder lenses too. The 50mm f1.5 was very disappointing in 
this regard.
My habits are very different from yours, so my requirements are also very 
different.
cheers,
Frank Dernie




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> From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> 
>Sent: Saturday, 22 September 2012, 8:05
>Subject: Re: [Leica] New M/ BOKEH?????
> 
>In agreement where Ted is coming from the idea of good or bad bokeh being a
>deal breaker and really the main focus of why to buy one lens over another
>is so obsurd it makes my teeth hurt. Far more important would seem to be to
>focus ones attention on what's in focus.
>Vibration reduction is a huge thing. Huge.
>A paradigm shifter big time.
>If its conceivably possible that it would effect the out of focus areas of
>the image my big thought on the issue is: who the hell cares? You're hand
>holding a 30omm lens at a 50th of a second I say that's a reason to
>celebrate. And a reason to go out and make images like you never could
>before. Or stay in and do it in your living room... turn the lights down
>low. Not have to use a wide. Do a portrait session with a 90mm and
>candlelight.
>
>Mark William Rabiner
>Photography
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