[Leica] LR4 cut to bow

[mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)]

The question would be WHY would you want digital to look like film.
Its not film. Its never going to be. And it doesn't need to be.
The only reasons why its an issue comes from people who think film is
superior. Which is  ridiculous. But if it was close to being a little bit
true a person who thought film was superior should be using film. Not
"faking" his look with third part digital algorithms which are here today
gone tomorrow.

Mark William Rabiner
Photography
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


> From: Wayne Torry <wtorry at vbar.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:05:07 +0000
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] LR4 cvt to bw
> 
> Lew,
> 
> I convert digital to B&W sparingly. As I still shoot a lot of B&W film in
> various formats, digital is my color medium. However, I did purchase an
> inexpensive set of Photoshop Actions and have used these with what I 
> believe
> to be good results. The only drawback I found is that each original RAW 
> file
> requires a trial & error hunt through the whole lot. That is probably due
> entirely to my unfamiliarity with Photoshop & B&W digital conversion. I 
> much
> prefer to get my B&W the correct way. Grinning.
> I wouldn't expect Tri-X/Plus-X/HP5/Pan F/Efke/Fomapan/Tmax/etc. results 
> from
> digital. Since I work in both media interchangeably & use all of the
> previously mentioned emusions, I can spot the real silver image in my work
> every time. I'm not saying that it isn't possible to make stunning B&W
> conversions. I have friends who do can do it. As good as they are, they 
> don't
> look like film. Your results may be different.
> 
> B&W Actions:
> 
> <http://www.thelightsrightstudio.com/TLRB&WConversion.htm>
> 
> <http://www.thelightsrightstudio.com/TLRB&WToning.htm>
> 
> Westley Clavey's LUG Gallery. Most of Westley's newest work is digital
> conversion.
> 
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/wclavey/>
> 
> I am not a fan of the presets that ship with Lightroom. Have you tried 
> them?
> They are listed on the left panel in the Develop module.
> Good luck! Share your results if you find something you like.
> 
> Wayne
>  
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:54:13 -0400
> From: Lew Schwartz <lew1716 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Leica] LR4 cvt to bw
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
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> 
> IMO, in LR4 Development mode, when you convert a color image to bw via
> selecting treatment -> black and white, we get the equivalent of
> printing a color negative on BW paper, ie not so good. OTOH, further
> down the right hand panel, there's an HSL (hue, saturation, luminance)
> panel, if we click B&W there, we can, in effect, create the black and
> white image we would have gotten if we could have used any
> number/combination of filters with black and white film.
> 
> I really don't want the filtered bw film look, rather, I'm just trying
> to duplicate the tri-x look, the plus-x look, etc ...  I don't want to
> buy Silver Efex yet ... so do any of you guys have some diy presets
> you'd care to share?
> 
> 
> Man! What a lot of words for a simple idea!
> 
> -LS
> 
> 
> 
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