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Subject: [Leica] LR4 cvt to bw
From: lew1716 at gmail.com (Lew Schwartz)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 09:55:49 -0400
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The bw actions site is actually about Photoshop, not Lightroom. Still, it's
pretty good. I can probably adapt the ideas to LR. I wonder how successful
I'll be applying the ideas to my bw film scans where I don't have any color
to work with at all.

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Wayne Torry <wtorry at vbar.com> wrote:

> Lew,
>
> I convert digital to B&W sparingly. As I still shoot a lot of B&W film in
> various formats, digital is my color medium. However, I did purchase an
> inexpensive set of Photoshop Actions and have used these with what I
> believe to be good results. The only drawback I found is that each original
> RAW file requires a trial & error hunt through the whole lot. That is
> probably due entirely to my unfamiliarity with Photoshop & B&W digital
> conversion. I much prefer to get my B&W the correct way. Grinning.
> I wouldn't expect Tri-X/Plus-X/HP5/Pan F/Efke/Fomapan/Tmax/etc. results
> from digital. Since I work in both media interchangeably & use all of the
> previously mentioned emusions, I can spot the real silver image in my work
> every time. I'm not saying that it isn't possible to make stunning B&W
> conversions. I have friends who do can do it. As good as they are, they
> don't look like film. Your results may be different.
>
> B&W Actions:
>
> <http://www.thelightsrightstudio.com/TLRB&WConversion.htm>
>
> <http://www.thelightsrightstudio.com/TLRB&WToning.htm>
>
> Westley Clavey's LUG Gallery. Most of Westley's newest work is digital
> conversion.
>
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/wclavey/>
>
> I am not a fan of the presets that ship with Lightroom. Have you tried
> them? They are listed on the left panel in the Develop module.
> Good luck! Share your results if you find something you like.
>
> Wayne
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:54:13 -0400
> From: Lew Schwartz <lew1716 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Leica] LR4 cvt to bw
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> IMO, in LR4 Development mode, when you convert a color image to bw via
> selecting treatment -> black and white, we get the equivalent of
> printing a color negative on BW paper, ie not so good. OTOH, further
> down the right hand panel, there's an HSL (hue, saturation, luminance)
> panel, if we click B&W there, we can, in effect, create the black and
> white image we would have gotten if we could have used any
> number/combination of filters with black and white film.
>
> I really don't want the filtered bw film look, rather, I'm just trying
> to duplicate the tri-x look, the plus-x look, etc ...  I don't want to
> buy Silver Efex yet ... so do any of you guys have some diy presets
> you'd care to share?
>
>
> Man! What a lot of words for a simple idea!
>
> -LS
>
>
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-Lew Schwartz


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