Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/07/26

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Subject: [Leica] A new M from Canon
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 04:27:06 -0400

I meant to write not hugely faster shutter speeds then before but hugely
higher shutter ISO's. I think shutter speeds leveled out at an 8000th a
couple of decades ago. But flash duration close up can be very much faster
I see we get
1/41600 sec. at M1/128 output with my SB800 flash and I'm sure heads similar
but I cant see why it can't be ever faster than that with the flash head a
foot or two away from your bumble bee. You've got a shot of actually
freezing his wings in motion. And that's not with a special high speed flash
which I'm sure exists somewhere.

Mark William Rabiner
Photography
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


> From: Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 08:37:33 +0100
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] A new M from Canon
> 
> High speed flash works incredibly well in macro, and looks completely 
> natural
> if you know how. The down side is weight and bulk.
> Given how much manual shake there is at macro distances I wouldn't hold 
> your
> breath for an effective VR/IS solution.
> FD
> 
> On 26 Jul, 2012, at 08:04, Mark Rabiner wrote:
> 
>> Thanks and a damn shame and I was wrong then. When they can get
>> stabilization in macro photography will be be a huge help.  I'm sure they
>> can some day. macro photography as many of us know is not just snap shots
>> down close it is hugely difficult on a number of unexpected levels if you
>> haven't researched it before you try it.. You need much faster shutter
>> speeds then at normal lengths and you need also to stop down a lot more.
>> What we do have now is hugely faster shutter speeds which make macro much
>> more doable than before.
>> VR would be a great boom.
>> Before that macro is darned hard to do without flash. Normally on a cord
>> held up or to the side. Tripods don't help as the things like branches are
>> moving in the slight breeze. And a bug is moving of course. Also there is 
>> a
>> thing where off camera flash somehow does not look like off camera flash 
>> in
>> macro work.
>> But by the way VR is not going to help with bugs.
>> A flash fired at a few feet away goes off very fast making for an 
>> effective
>> shutter speed of many times faster than any shutter. Exactly what you 
>> need.
>> 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photography
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 07:45:08 +0100
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] A new M from Canon
>>> 
>>> I have this lens and like it. The VR is fairly ineffective at macro
>>> magnifications, since the shake is way more than can be realistically
>>> compensated by a moving set of elements.
>>> The fact that the VR does not work well for macro is pointed out in the
>>> lens'
>>> instructions supplied by Nikon with the lens (which I would not normally
>>> read).
>>> OTOH as a stabilised normal lens it works brilliantly.
>>> FD
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 25 Jul, 2012, at 20:26, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The 105 macro which I have on my camera right now having been sent it
>>>> yesterday is now VR  in the past year which has I've been told and I
>>>> believe; revolutionized it's use in the macro world in which I'm so 
>>>> fond.
>>> 
>>> 
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