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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Back to film!
From: dlridings at gmail.com (Daniel Ridings)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 21:33:58 +0200
References: <C0260B00-0A73-4A48-8B7B-331F098F7438@usjet.net> <CC274167.211E3%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Love that glow :-)

On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:
> Here's a print over the internet!
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/daysout/050106_234300.jpg.html 
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/83wkbmy
>
> - - from my iRabs.
> Mark Rabiner
>
>
>> From: Robert Meier <robertmeier at usjet.net>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:01:21 -0500 (CDT)
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Back to film!
>>
>> Daniel,
>>
>> You make a good point about negatives being better than the scans made 
>> from
>> them, and I would add, the prints made from negatives are better than the
>> scans as well.   This makes it impossible to compare things over the 
>> internet,
>> since scans are all that we can show on the internet.   You have to have 
>> the
>> actual darkroom prints from negatives in your hands to see how good they 
>> can
>> be.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> On Jul 14, 2012, at 2:36 AM, Daniel Ridings wrote:
>>
>>> Well, we've brought up some of my cherished topics, Elmars and film,
>>> the last few days. Mark mentioned the 90/4 (or, as another Marc would
>>> protest 9cm f4.0 Elmar). So I pulled out one of mine. I was running a
>>> roll of Kentmere 100 through the paces. I couldn't find suggested
>>> times for Xtol, so I needed to see how my guesstimate would work out,
>>> before I trusted it.
>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/dlridings/oddsnends/12v28-1.jpg.html
>>>
>>> Somewhere in the settings, Vuescan or my LS-5000 thinks it is Jan 1,
>>> 2012. All my scans get dated by that. I'm really going to have to
>>> figure out where that is coming from.
>>>
>>> As long as I was running some film though, I added the 50/2.8 Elmar to
>>> the brew (the old one, not the new very, very good one).
>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/dlridings/oddsnends/12v28-2.jpg.html
>>>
>>> 1/30 @ 2.8 I bought that one from a LUGer, John Collier? Can't really
>>> remember. It's been a few years ago now.
>>>
>>> Then I myself was curious about how the Summitar, also wide open, would
>>> compare.
>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/dlridings/oddsnends/12v28-4.jpg.html
>>>
>>> The Summitar is probably more know for its out of focus character
>>> (won't really say "quality") than anything else. But I wanted a faster
>>> lens for the LTM and if you can find one in decent shape (pretty
>>> difficult task) they work just fine. The lens shade for my 50
>>> Summicron works on it, so I don't have to use the goofy barn-door one
>>> designed for the lens.
>>>
>>> Here's the stuff.
>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/dlridings/oddsnends/20120714-_DSC3839.jpg.ht
>>> ml
>>>
>>> The IIIg 50 and 90 is a nice compact combo. I lost my 35mm viewfinder
>>> in Oslo a couple of years back. It fell off the camera while I was
>>> walking around on 17th of May celebrations. Kind of pained me.
>>>
>>> To be totally honest, I took some similar shots with my Nikon D300 and
>>> consumer zoom, 24-85 3.5-?? ... and I have to admit, they're better
>>> than the film scans. The negative might match the image from the D300,
>>> but by the time you scan it, it loses out. :-(
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Chris Saganich <csaganich at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> I have an ex pat friend in BK Th.  Let me know if you go.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Daniel Ridings <dlridings at 
>>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Tell me more, Jim. I feel there must be typo (wino?) in there. 32/4? I
>>>>> don't mind the Contax/Nikon mount (as long as it fits a Kiev) but
>>>>> 32/4? You compare with a 21 for Nikon or Contax. Are we talking about
>>>>> a decent wide-angle? I have the 21/4 in Voigtlander (if it's color
>>>>> Skopar or just Skopje, I don't remember ... decent lens).
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:28 PM, jshulman at judgecrater.com
>>>>> <jshulman at judgecrater.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Welcome back to your senses. My only recommendation is to get the 32/4
>>>>> Voigtlander land in Contax/NIKON mount.  It's a sensational lens, and
>>>>> likely outperforms the rare NIKON 21 or the vintage Contax 21.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>>>>> From: "Phil Forrest" <photo.forrest at earthlink.net>
>>>>>> Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2012 3:18 pm
>>>>>> Subject: [Leica] Back to film!
>>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A few folks here are also members on RFF and may have followed a few 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> my threads there but I finally shuffled off the digital monkey a few
>>>>>> days ago.
>>>>>> I traded my M9 (which I had been trying to sell for a while) for a
>>>>>> Nikon SP with titanium shutter and a good amount of cash. It was a 
>>>>>> good
>>>>>> deal, I think. I got a *reliable* camera that is compatible with most
>>>>>> of my lenses (I sold my Leica lenses and replaced them with RF 
>>>>>> Nikkors)
>>>>>> and the new M9 owner got a camera he wanted. I still have my film M4, 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> beat up DR Summicron and my Super Angulon but I'm considering the sale
>>>>>> of the latter to replace it with the 2.1cm Nikkor for the F mount with
>>>>>> adapter. An excellent lens itself but much lower cost.
>>>>>> I'm happy because I am no longer tethered to a wall socket to recharge
>>>>>> batteries. Film doesn't have a slow buffer time. I can forget about my
>>>>>> latent images on the roll for a while and not worry about filling up 
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> limited storage media. It's just a good move. I'm not getting any 
>>>>>> photo
>>>>>> business and I can't rationalize sitting on almost $5000 worth of
>>>>>> camera that isn't making me money.
>>>>>> It was kind of fun while it lasted even though the headaches of M9
>>>>>> unreliability (and the M8 before it) drove me nuts. I should have sold
>>>>>> it a year ago.
>>>>>> It's good to be back to film. It feels rebellious, actually.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phil Forrest
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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