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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Back to film!
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 15:31:51 -0400

Here's a print over the internet!
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/daysout/050106_234300.jpg.html or
http://tinyurl.com/83wkbmy

- - from my iRabs.
Mark Rabiner


> From: Robert Meier <robertmeier at usjet.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:01:21 -0500 (CDT)
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Back to film!
> 
> Daniel,
> 
> You make a good point about negatives being better than the scans made from
> them, and I would add, the prints made from negatives are better than the
> scans as well.   This makes it impossible to compare things over the 
> internet,
> since scans are all that we can show on the internet.   You have to have 
> the
> actual darkroom prints from negatives in your hands to see how good they 
> can
> be.
> 
> Robert
> 
> On Jul 14, 2012, at 2:36 AM, Daniel Ridings wrote:
> 
>> Well, we've brought up some of my cherished topics, Elmars and film,
>> the last few days. Mark mentioned the 90/4 (or, as another Marc would
>> protest 9cm f4.0 Elmar). So I pulled out one of mine. I was running a
>> roll of Kentmere 100 through the paces. I couldn't find suggested
>> times for Xtol, so I needed to see how my guesstimate would work out,
>> before I trusted it.
>> 
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/dlridings/oddsnends/12v28-1.jpg.html
>> 
>> Somewhere in the settings, Vuescan or my LS-5000 thinks it is Jan 1,
>> 2012. All my scans get dated by that. I'm really going to have to
>> figure out where that is coming from.
>> 
>> As long as I was running some film though, I added the 50/2.8 Elmar to
>> the brew (the old one, not the new very, very good one).
>> 
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/dlridings/oddsnends/12v28-2.jpg.html
>> 
>> 1/30 @ 2.8 I bought that one from a LUGer, John Collier? Can't really
>> remember. It's been a few years ago now.
>> 
>> Then I myself was curious about how the Summitar, also wide open, would
>> compare.
>> 
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/dlridings/oddsnends/12v28-4.jpg.html
>> 
>> The Summitar is probably more know for its out of focus character
>> (won't really say "quality") than anything else. But I wanted a faster
>> lens for the LTM and if you can find one in decent shape (pretty
>> difficult task) they work just fine. The lens shade for my 50
>> Summicron works on it, so I don't have to use the goofy barn-door one
>> designed for the lens.
>> 
>> Here's the stuff.
>> 
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/dlridings/oddsnends/20120714-_DSC3839.jpg.ht
>> ml
>> 
>> The IIIg 50 and 90 is a nice compact combo. I lost my 35mm viewfinder
>> in Oslo a couple of years back. It fell off the camera while I was
>> walking around on 17th of May celebrations. Kind of pained me.
>> 
>> To be totally honest, I took some similar shots with my Nikon D300 and
>> consumer zoom, 24-85 3.5-?? ... and I have to admit, they're better
>> than the film scans. The negative might match the image from the D300,
>> but by the time you scan it, it loses out. :-(
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Chris Saganich <csaganich at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> I have an ex pat friend in BK Th.  Let me know if you go.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Daniel Ridings <dlridings at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Tell me more, Jim. I feel there must be typo (wino?) in there. 32/4? I
>>>> don't mind the Contax/Nikon mount (as long as it fits a Kiev) but
>>>> 32/4? You compare with a 21 for Nikon or Contax. Are we talking about
>>>> a decent wide-angle? I have the 21/4 in Voigtlander (if it's color
>>>> Skopar or just Skopje, I don't remember ... decent lens).
>>>> 
>>>> Daniel
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:28 PM, jshulman at judgecrater.com
>>>> <jshulman at judgecrater.com> wrote:
>>>>> Welcome back to your senses. My only recommendation is to get the 32/4
>>>> Voigtlander land in Contax/NIKON mount.  It's a sensational lens, and
>>>> likely outperforms the rare NIKON 21 or the vintage Contax 21.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>>>> From: "Phil Forrest" <photo.forrest at earthlink.net>
>>>>> Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2012 3:18 pm
>>>>> Subject: [Leica] Back to film!
>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> 
>>>>> A few folks here are also members on RFF and may have followed a few of
>>>>> my threads there but I finally shuffled off the digital monkey a few
>>>>> days ago.
>>>>> I traded my M9 (which I had been trying to sell for a while) for a
>>>>> Nikon SP with titanium shutter and a good amount of cash. It was a good
>>>>> deal, I think. I got a *reliable* camera that is compatible with most
>>>>> of my lenses (I sold my Leica lenses and replaced them with RF Nikkors)
>>>>> and the new M9 owner got a camera he wanted. I still have my film M4, a
>>>>> beat up DR Summicron and my Super Angulon but I'm considering the sale
>>>>> of the latter to replace it with the 2.1cm Nikkor for the F mount with
>>>>> adapter. An excellent lens itself but much lower cost.
>>>>> I'm happy because I am no longer tethered to a wall socket to recharge
>>>>> batteries. Film doesn't have a slow buffer time. I can forget about my
>>>>> latent images on the roll for a while and not worry about filling up my
>>>>> limited storage media. It's just a good move. I'm not getting any photo
>>>>> business and I can't rationalize sitting on almost $5000 worth of
>>>>> camera that isn't making me money.
>>>>> It was kind of fun while it lasted even though the headaches of M9
>>>>> unreliability (and the M8 before it) drove me nuts. I should have sold
>>>>> it a year ago.
>>>>> It's good to be back to film. It feels rebellious, actually.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Phil Forrest
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
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>>>>> 
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