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Subject: [Leica] OT: Are we Anal or what? "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one?
From: digiratidoc at gmail.com (James Laird)
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 15:55:26 -0500
References: <CAMGHw9B=aWixmXOd4ESpQ3JEeNkKXZmpuCKStbxTSdMk7-vuHw@mail.gmail.com> <12B4CD4E-DC52-439D-AFD1-8FE17B2010E8@frozenlight.eu>

Really? I guess it does matter if the 'decisive moment' was staged, I guess. 
NOT. Ask Stanley Kubrick (if you could) or Steven Spielberg or George Lucas 
if their 'decisive moments' were staged. Or maybe Robert Capa? :)

Jim Laird

On Jun 17, 2012, at 3:41 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:

> The discussion was not about the equipment used to take the pictures in 
> question--that does not matter. The discussion was about whether the 
> puddle jumper shot was staged, and that does matter, given HCB's fame for 
> "decisive moment" and all that.
> 
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu
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> 
> YNWA
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 17, 2012, at 10:24 PM, James Laird wrote:
> 
>> Really? We are worried about whether or not the 'Iwo Jima' shot or the
>> HCB 'Puddle Jumper' shot was staged? Really? Are we worried that maybe
>> the eyelashes on the guy in the puddle jumper shot might be sharper if
>> we shot them with a Nikon D800 vs D800E? Really? Doesn't this seem a
>> bit ridiculous to all of you? Maybe a bit anal?
>> WHO CARES? They are great photographs. Who cares if they were shot
>> with an M4 and a 50mm Collapsible Summicron or an 800E with a Nikkor
>> 50 1.4? It's STILL a great photograph, isn't it? I've seen great
>> photographs taken with 3.2 MP Minolta cameras that most of us would
>> consider pieces of crap, but the photo...a work of art. Beautiful by
>> anyone's standards.
>> I think we all need to take a deep breath, slow down, and realize once
>> and for all that the photograph is what counts. NOT the camera or the
>> lens or the film or the memory card or CS5 or LR4 or whatever we used
>> to get it. A great photograph stands on its own merit. And we all know
>> that the minute we see it. That's what keeps us shooting. We all think
>> that someday we might be skilled enough or (in the end) lucky enough
>> to be in the right place at the right time with a camera to take a
>> photograph that is eternal. Like HCB. He took thousands of
>> photographs, many of which were probably NOT keepers. But he kept on
>> shooting because he was rich enough or lucky enough to be able to do
>> nothing but take photographs, to do the thing that we all love so
>> much. God, he makes me so jealous sometimes. We all probably wish we
>> could have the chance to do what he did.
>> But most of us can't so we think if we buy X lens and Y camera with Z
>> processor/computer that maybe we can do what he did, oh god if we only
>> could. Really?
>> 
>> Just my humble opinion ;)
>> 
>> Jim Laird
>> 
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Replies: Reply from henningw at archiphoto.com (Henning Wulff) ([Leica] OT: Are we Anal or what? "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one?)
Reply from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] OT: Are we Anal or what? "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one?)
In reply to: Message from digiratidoc at gmail.com (James Laird) ([Leica] OT: Are we Anal or what? "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one?)
Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] OT: Are we Anal or what? "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one?)