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Subject: [Leica] "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one?
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:20:49 +0200
References: <CC0304D2.1FCA8%mark@rabinergroup.com> <D5739A70-8E1D-483E-904A-2DEAE9287829@comcast.net>

Same here. 

Nathan Wajsman
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YNWA



On Jun 17, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Richard Taylor wrote:

> Mark - I remember seeing the contact sheet with multiple jumps, too, but 
> whether it was in connection with the NYLUG meting or elsewhere, I can't 
> remember at the moment. 
> 
> Dick
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 17, 2012, at 3:51, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
>> I was afraid of that.  I went flipping though the book when I was in
>> Portland last month and I never found the page. The show we saw in NY 
>> though
>> was not that show you are mentioning. It was the Scrapbook show. Early 
>> work.
>> It could be I dreamt the contact sheet of puddle jumping but I was not 
>> aware
>> I was that delusional.  Possible though. The place I would have seen it
>> would have been in the International Center of Photography five years ago.
>> Perhaps someone who was with me from the NYLUG can corroborate it.
>> I certainly can not find it in numerous searches on Bing and Google 
>> contacts
>> sheet mode searches.
>> Henri Cartier-Bresson's Scrapbook: Photographs, 1932?1946
>> JANUARY 19?APRIL 29, 2007
>> http://www.icp.org/museum/exhibitions/henri-cartier-bressons-scrapbook
>> 
>> - - from my iRabs.
>> Mark Rabiner
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:37:02 -0700
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: [Leica] "The Puddle Jumper" / Re:  How about this one?
>>> 
>>> Mark, I checked my copy of "Celebrating the Negative," and the negative
>>> shown is just that single frame, cut off, without sprocket holes on on 
>>> edge
>>> even (Henri "ate them," so he said).
>>> 
>>> No there is no contact sheet of the sequence. Unfortunately, it's not
>>> included in the Magnum book "Contact Sheet" either.
>>> 
>>> I went to the "Modern Century" show of HCB's photos a few years ago in
>>> SFMOMA and there's no such contact sheet :-(
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In the contact sheet in the book  "Celebrating the Negative"  by
>>>> John Loengard you can see he is caught in the air jumping over the same
>>>> puddle from the same spot at least 27 times.
>>>> Some of us NY LUG guys also saw and discused that contact sheet when it 
>>>> was
>>>> displayed in the early HCB show at the ICP in new York a few years ago:
>>>> Henri Cartier-Bresson's Scrapbook: Photographs, 1932?1946
>>>> JANUARY 19?APRIL 29, 2007
>>>> 
>>>> Derriere la Gare Saint-Lazare  better known as:
>>>> The Puddle Jumper
>>>> 
>>>> This photo findable now on the internet is mainly used as an example for
>>>> the
>>>> other myth. That HCB (or other Magnum shooters) never cropped. This 
>>>> photo
>>>> is
>>>> cropped by quite a bit. As are a handful of others of his.
>>>> They are saying in many examples I find on the internet  that he is
>>>> shooting
>>>> through a fence which reinforces the whole "decisive moment" myth; 
>>>> Waiting
>>>> patiently some magic moment to happen from a hole in a fence clicking 
>>>> once
>>>> and going home.
>>>> But the guy jumps from the same place over the same puddle strip after
>>>> strip.
>>>> And there was no reason for HCB to not act like any other magazine
>>>> photographer of the time and perhaps a bit less so, now.. To be heavily
>>>> involved with what he was shooting.
>>>> Of course its always depended on the exact kind of thing you're 
>>>> shooting.
>>>> Baby shoes and so on. Hiring models to kiss in front of crowds of 
>>>> leering
>>>> men...
>>>> 
>>>> - - from my iRabs.
>>>> Mark Rabiner
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:52:29 -0700
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] How about this one?
>>>>> 
>>>>> In the "Impassionated Eye" video, HCB explicitly said the same thing 
>>>>> you
>>>>> did, so I think the "asking the guy jumping multiple times" is a myth.
>>>>> 
>>>>> and I just love this video
>>>>> http://vimeo.com/33376713
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:17 PM, B. D. Colen <bd at bdcolenphoto.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Finally, I won't put money on this - but I don't think HCB had the guy
>>>> do
>>>>>> anything. He was shooting through a hole in a fence, and shot a series
>>>> of
>>>>>> people as they tried to get across the puddle. The best of the images 
>>>>>> he
>>>>>> got was of the famous jumper. At least I believe that's correct.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>> 
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