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Subject: [Leica] "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one?
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 03:51:46 -0400

I was afraid of that.  I went flipping though the book when I was in
Portland last month and I never found the page. The show we saw in NY though
was not that show you are mentioning. It was the Scrapbook show. Early work.
It could be I dreamt the contact sheet of puddle jumping but I was not aware
I was that delusional.  Possible though. The place I would have seen it
would have been in the International Center of Photography five years ago.
Perhaps someone who was with me from the NYLUG can corroborate it.
I certainly can not find it in numerous searches on Bing and Google contacts
sheet mode searches.
Henri Cartier-Bresson's Scrapbook: Photographs, 1932?1946
JANUARY 19?APRIL 29, 2007
http://www.icp.org/museum/exhibitions/henri-cartier-bressons-scrapbook

- - from my iRabs.
Mark Rabiner
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/


> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:37:02 -0700
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: [Leica] "The Puddle Jumper" / Re:  How about this one?
> 
> Mark, I checked my copy of "Celebrating the Negative," and the negative
> shown is just that single frame, cut off, without sprocket holes on on edge
> even (Henri "ate them," so he said).
> 
> No there is no contact sheet of the sequence. Unfortunately, it's not
> included in the Magnum book "Contact Sheet" either.
> 
> I went to the "Modern Century" show of HCB's photos a few years ago in
> SFMOMA and there's no such contact sheet :-(
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> In the contact sheet in the book  "Celebrating the Negative"  by
>> John Loengard you can see he is caught in the air jumping over the same
>> puddle from the same spot at least 27 times.
>> Some of us NY LUG guys also saw and discused that contact sheet when it 
>> was
>> displayed in the early HCB show at the ICP in new York a few years ago:
>> Henri Cartier-Bresson's Scrapbook: Photographs, 1932?1946
>> JANUARY 19?APRIL 29, 2007
>> 
>> Derriere la Gare Saint-Lazare  better known as:
>> The Puddle Jumper
>> 
>> This photo findable now on the internet is mainly used as an example for
>> the
>> other myth. That HCB (or other Magnum shooters) never cropped. This photo
>> is
>> cropped by quite a bit. As are a handful of others of his.
>> They are saying in many examples I find on the internet  that he is
>> shooting
>> through a fence which reinforces the whole "decisive moment" myth; Waiting
>> patiently some magic moment to happen from a hole in a fence clicking once
>> and going home.
>> But the guy jumps from the same place over the same puddle strip after
>> strip.
>> And there was no reason for HCB to not act like any other magazine
>> photographer of the time and perhaps a bit less so, now.. To be heavily
>> involved with what he was shooting.
>> Of course its always depended on the exact kind of thing you're shooting.
>> Baby shoes and so on. Hiring models to kiss in front of crowds of leering
>> men...
>> 
>> - - from my iRabs.
>> Mark Rabiner
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:52:29 -0700
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] How about this one?
>>> 
>>> In the "Impassionated Eye" video, HCB explicitly said the same thing you
>>> did, so I think the "asking the guy jumping multiple times" is a myth.
>>> 
>>> and I just love this video
>>> http://vimeo.com/33376713
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:17 PM, B. D. Colen <bd at bdcolenphoto.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ...
>>>> Finally, I won't put money on this - but I don't think HCB had the guy
>> do
>>>> anything. He was shooting through a hole in a fence, and shot a series
>> of
>>>> people as they tried to get across the puddle. The best of the images he
>>>> got was of the famous jumper. At least I believe that's correct.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>> 
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> 
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