[Leica] "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one?

[richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)]

Monsieur Cartier-Bresson obviously loved to play head games with his fan.
He clearly said a few times that he couldn't see too well through the slot
or hole in the fence, but he never said, AFAIK, whether he got the guy to
jump multiple times or not. He deliberately left it vague.

It would be great as an intellectual resolution to know the answer once and
for all.

thanks

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at 
rabinergroup.com>wrote:

> I was afraid of that.  I went flipping though the book when I was in
> Portland last month and I never found the page. The show we saw in NY
> though
> was not that show you are mentioning. It was the Scrapbook show. Early
> work.
> It could be I dreamt the contact sheet of puddle jumping but I was not
> aware
> I was that delusional.  Possible though. The place I would have seen it
> would have been in the International Center of Photography five years ago.
> Perhaps someone who was with me from the NYLUG can corroborate it.
> I certainly can not find it in numerous searches on Bing and Google
> contacts
> sheet mode searches.
> Henri Cartier-Bresson's Scrapbook: Photographs, 1932?1946
> JANUARY 19?APRIL 29, 2007
> http://www.icp.org/museum/exhibitions/henri-cartier-bressons-scrapbook
>
> - - from my iRabs.
> Mark Rabiner
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/
>
>
> > From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:37:02 -0700
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Subject: [Leica] "The Puddle Jumper" / Re:  How about this one?
> >
> > Mark, I checked my copy of "Celebrating the Negative," and the negative
> > shown is just that single frame, cut off, without sprocket holes on on
> edge
> > even (Henri "ate them," so he said).
> >
> > No there is no contact sheet of the sequence. Unfortunately, it's not
> > included in the Magnum book "Contact Sheet" either.
> >
> > I went to the "Modern Century" show of HCB's photos a few years ago in
> > SFMOMA and there's no such contact sheet :-(
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> In the contact sheet in the book  "Celebrating the Negative"  by
> >> John Loengard you can see he is caught in the air jumping over the same
> >> puddle from the same spot at least 27 times.
> >> Some of us NY LUG guys also saw and discused that contact sheet when it
> was
> >> displayed in the early HCB show at the ICP in new York a few years ago:
> >> Henri Cartier-Bresson's Scrapbook: Photographs, 1932?1946
> >> JANUARY 19?APRIL 29, 2007
> >>
> >> Derriere la Gare Saint-Lazare  better known as:
> >> The Puddle Jumper
> >>
> >> This photo findable now on the internet is mainly used as an example for
> >> the
> >> other myth. That HCB (or other Magnum shooters) never cropped. This
> photo
> >> is
> >> cropped by quite a bit. As are a handful of others of his.
> >> They are saying in many examples I find on the internet  that he is
> >> shooting
> >> through a fence which reinforces the whole "decisive moment" myth;
> Waiting
> >> patiently some magic moment to happen from a hole in a fence clicking
> once
> >> and going home.
> >> But the guy jumps from the same place over the same puddle strip after
> >> strip.
> >> And there was no reason for HCB to not act like any other magazine
> >> photographer of the time and perhaps a bit less so, now.. To be heavily
> >> involved with what he was shooting.
> >> Of course its always depended on the exact kind of thing you're
> shooting.
> >> Baby shoes and so on. Hiring models to kiss in front of crowds of
> leering
> >> men...
> >>
> >> - - from my iRabs.
> >> Mark Rabiner
> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:52:29 -0700
> >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] How about this one?
> >>>
> >>> In the "Impassionated Eye" video, HCB explicitly said the same thing
> you
> >>> did, so I think the "asking the guy jumping multiple times" is a myth.
> >>>
> >>> and I just love this video
> >>> http://vimeo.com/33376713
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:17 PM, B. D. Colen <bd at bdcolenphoto.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> ...
> >>>> Finally, I won't put money on this - but I don't think HCB had the guy
> >> do
> >>>> anything. He was shooting through a hole in a fence, and shot a series
> >> of
> >>>> people as they tried to get across the puddle. The best of the images
> he
> >>>> got was of the famous jumper. At least I believe that's correct.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>>
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