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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Pythagoras / Milo
From: john.nebel at csdco.com (John Nebel)
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 22:42:14 -0700
References: <4F5559CD.4060008@csdco.com> <CAE3QcF6QbHLTzAD1cdqQL+nUs0sEKByMj3mrGfju0ixK+6psuw@mail.gmail.com> <4F5592BF.9060302@csdco.com> <CAE3QcF7POtU2ppBHn_KU0c=gNWUBgddi5Hqcb0mebyV7pcN4eg@mail.gmail.com>

I know, however, my role here is the straight man.  Humor works better 
if someone takes it seriously.  You know, it's the classic win/win.

On 3/5/12 9:45 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
> Umm, my last remark was just to be silly (a small pun on Pythagoras
> theorem)!
>
> Cheers,
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>
> NO ARCHIVE
>
>
>
> On 6 March 2012 14:29, John Nebel<john.nebel at csdco.com>  wrote:
>
>> Geoff,
>>
>> Thanks for looking and your kind post!  Iamblichus from the 4th cent AD is
>> the source for the Pythia story.  A more reliable source is Aristotle, 4th
>> cent BC, who documented that the Pythagoreans had a special affinity for
>> Apollo, but did not drift beyond that into sensationalism.  The
>> Pythagoreans were secretive and I recall that Plutarch wrote that he
>> changed the subject when he saw one of his Pythagorean friends become
>> uneasy when the discussion turned to Pythagoras.  Plutarch was a priest of
>> Delphi in the 1st and 2nd cent AD and perhaps the most prolific ancient
>> Greek author.
>>
>> The coin probably does represent Pythagoras and Milo.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On 3/5/12 6:34 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>>
>>> John the subjects are always most interesting but the way that you are 
>>> now
>>> documenting them ought to be seen for best practice for every curator and
>>> collector around. Technically superb work.
>>>
>>> By the way are you sure about that story or is it only a theorem?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Geoff
>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6 March 2012 10:26, John Nebel<john.nebel at csdco.com>   wrote:
>>>
>>>   Pythagoras was conceived while his father, Mnesarchus, was visiting the
>>>> Delphic Oracle, the Pythia.  According to the Oracle, Menesarchus's wife
>>>> would give birth to a remarkable son, she did and he was named 
>>>> Pythagoras
>>>> after the Pythia, and his father was presumed to be the god Apollo.
>>>>
>>>> Milo the wrestler was one of the most famous athletes of the ancient
>>>> world, a six time Olympic victor; his athletic and military feats were
>>>> compared to the god Herakles.  Milo was a student of Pythagoras's and
>>>> thought to have married his daughter.
>>>>
>>>> http://photos.csd.net/kroton_****nomos.html<http://photos.csd.net/kroton_**nomos.html>
>>>> <http://photos.csd.**net/kroton_nomos.html<http://photos.csd.net/kroton_nomos.html>>is
>>>> a photo of a dime sized coin issued by the city-state of Kroton about
>>>>
>>>> 294 BC, a century after Pythagoras death; I think the city-state was
>>>> commemorating its two most famous sons.  It's a masterpiece of 
>>>> engraving,
>>>> and a wonder of preservation.
>>>>
>>>> The obverse is Apollo, and the reverse is the infant Herakles, son of
>>>> Zeus
>>>> and the mortal Alcmeme, strangling two snakes sent to kill him by Zeus's
>>>> perpetually jealous wife, Hera.
>>>>
>>>> Mouse over the image to see the reverse, click for a larger image.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
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